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Old 4th November 2009, 9:17 PM   #1
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I dont know many people who literally believe in God in the Christian fundamentalist sense, but I see them on TV a lot
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Old 17th November 2009, 5:40 PM   #2
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The only things you listed that aren't reasonable are the stories of the dude in the whale, Noah being 900 years old and "no dinosaurs", because those are just old stories.

God, Heaven, Hell, No Dinosaurs, Virgin Birth, and Coming Back From The Dead do not fail any sort of "reason test." And again, an atheist gets the definition of "faith" wrong.

The fact that you think the creation story is some sort of important belief that every christian holds is a joke.
LOL????????????

Your kidding!

I've have come to the conclusion that your delusional beliefs have you fighting for air while the vacuum of science reduces your intelligence to lame posts like this.

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Old 5th November 2009, 3:05 AM   #3
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you talkin' to me?

A person who spent 43 years in the Catholic faith, nearly joined an order of nuns, and studied theology?
You talkin' to me?

Meh...!

I wasn't defining the word 'Faith' as per a dictionary...I was defining the word faith as per its usage when discussing fact and fiction.

But ok, I'll play your game.....

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Reason and faith are not mutually exclusive, and that is where you fail epically. You don't even know what the true definition of faith here. Here, let me help you.

faith

–noun 1.confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.

The 'faith' used in the bible and throughout christian history has always been 'trust in God.' It has never meant 'blind belief' or 'belief in something without evidence.' That's just what nonbelievers have tried to change it to to make religious people look stupid or gullible.
we don't need to make them 'try' to look like anything. They do a pretty good job of it themselves....
Odd you should use the word 'trust'...it bears me out......

Ok, my go.....

From the Greater Oxford English Dictionary 35th Edition:
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• noun 1 firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something. 2 acceptance of the truth of a statement without evidence or investigation.
and as a verb:
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• verb 1: have trust in. 2: (trust with) have the confidence to allow (someone) to have, use, or look after. 3: (trust to) commit (someone or something) to the safekeeping of. 4: (trust, to) place reliance on (luck, fate, etc.). 5 have confidence; hope: I trust that you have enjoyed this book.
So actually, I was absolutely spot-on....

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The fact is, 'reason' does not contradict christian belief in any way shape or form, and you really need to get more educated in this subject before you start making posts on the internet and trying to act like some philosopher.
Reason is in essence, the very thing which flies in the face of religious zealots. It's something which they find deeply threatening and disturbing.....
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Old 16th November 2009, 10:35 PM   #4
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you talkin' to me?

A person who spent 43 years in the Catholic faith, nearly joined an order of nuns, and studied theology?
You talkin' to me?


I wasn't defining the word 'Faith' as per a dictionary...I was defining the word faith as per its usage when discussing fact and fiction.

But ok, I'll play your game.....



we don't need to make them 'try' to look like anything. They do a pretty good job of it themselves....
Odd you should use the word 'trust'...it bears me out......

Ok, my go.....

From the Greater Oxford English Dictionary 35th Edition: trust
• noun 1 firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something. 2 acceptance of the truth of a statement without evidence or investigation.
That definition of faith has nothing to do with religion, so then why is the OP and everyone else here discussing religion in a topic that has nothing to do with religion?

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Reason is in essence, the very thing which flies in the face of religious zealots. It's something which they find deeply threatening and disturbing.....
This thread is not about "religious zealots"
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Old 17th November 2009, 3:34 AM   #5
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It has everything to do with Religion.
At least, my religion. Unless you're going to tell me my religion isn't a religion at all.

The title of the thread is "Faith vs Reason: Which is more important in your life?"

The two in my religion, are synonymous.
I have Faith (confidence) in my religion, precisely because we use Reason, not Hope, to follow it.
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Old 12th November 2009, 3:20 PM   #6
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...But why is it, when it comes to living, we always put Reason before Blind faith in every facet of our lives (school, learning, math, our jobs, everything) UNTIL it comes to Religion, then it gets thrown out the window, and this is perfectly acceptable to the majorty of the human race ??
I'm not Religious, but I do have faith - so I can't really speak to your question directly - however, I do believe that faith and reason can definitely coexist with no special amount of weight given one or the other the majority of the time.
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Old 12th November 2009, 3:52 PM   #7
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A person who spent 43 years in the Catholic faith, nearly joined an order of nuns, and studied theology?

boy, wouldn't the outfit on your avvy be an eye-opening "modern habit"!
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Old 17th November 2009, 3:35 AM   #8
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A person who spent 43 years in the Catholic faith, nearly joined an order of nuns, and studied theology?

boy, wouldn't the outfit on your avvy be an eye-opening "modern habit"!
Don't.
Just don't.
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