i am a athelic guy... why do big girls try to get at me? they might be nice but im not atracted to them at all. were is all the girls that take care of them self's?
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HEY! I've got a FANTASTIC idea! Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and try to appreciate people for the thoughts in their head rather than the pounds on their scale? Then maybe, JUST MAYBE, you'll find someone who you won't be a burden on!
Let me translate that into words that you may be able to understand: you'll get laid once in a while.
****ing jerk.
Oh to address your post...I think most women have similar physical requirements standards as men have. I think it is more about the fact that it is taboo for men to discuss their standards because they are viewed as sexual.
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i am a athelic guy... why do big girls try to get at me? they might be nice but im not atracted to them at all. were is all the girls that take care of them self's?
Also the fact that to some degree my competition consists of guys who communicate on the same level as retarded chimps is mildly encouraging.
Oh to address your post...I think most women have similar physical requirements standards as men have. I think it is more about the fact that it is taboo for men to discuss their standards because they are viewed as sexual.
Weight preference actually makes sense, height preference doesn't
haha I don't think anyones preferences in a mate make more or less sense, I think people are allowed to choose based on whatever criteria they want.
Well height requirements and preferences make no sense, because a persons height dictates absolutely nothing. Weight on the other hand, if a girl is fat it means she's unhealthy, lazy, greedy.
Weight preference actually makes sense, height preference doesn't
I agree... Height preference is somewhat unfair since it involves judging someone on something they cannot help. Weight preference makes more sense since it involves judging someone on something with probably results from gluttony and an unhealthy lifestyle. For most people without a serious medical condition, being overweight is avoidable while being short isn't.
I agree... Height preference is somewhat unfair since it involves judging someone on something they cannot help. Weight preference makes more sense since it involves judging someone on something with probably results from gluttony and an unhealthy lifestyle. For most people without a serious medical condition, being overweight is avoidable while being short isn't.
Actually, much as I'm short, thinking about it there is no difference really. You're simply judging the fat person on a character flaw they are pre-disposed to as part of their genetic makeup and probably a whole load of other circumstances they've encountered that they can't change.
Either way judging people for partner suitability on things they can't help is not a trait exclusive to a particular gender.
I agree... Height preference is somewhat unfair since it involves judging someone on something they cannot help. Weight preference makes more sense since it involves judging someone on something with probably results from gluttony and an unhealthy lifestyle. For most people without a serious medical condition, being overweight is avoidable while being short isn't.
It doesn't matter. Men are a status symbol for women. That what you say makes logical sense, has no impact on the way the world works. If you're short, not many women will date you, but some will.
Weight preference actually makes sense, height preference doesn't
Taller people make more money. Maybe it's wise to prefer a mate with taller genes. It is about the genes after all.
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Originally Posted by mbeewood
No, it's not an opinion, because there are valid biological reasons for not wanting fat girls. There are not valid reasons for needing a guy to be a tall, or to be a certian height.
Not true, in fact.
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Originally Posted by Jaytb
... weight is still social conditioning as well, at one time, slightly heavier was the mainstay of society, then skinny became sought after. It's all about what characteristics rich people have
Social to a degree but while skinny might be sought after, Americans in general are fatter now than ever. Maybe that's why we are seeing 'skinny' as a goal.
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Good genes how?
More likely to reproduce successfully. Nothing else really matters in the genome lottery.
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No, height/breast size have nothing to do with having 'good genes'
How are 'good genes' graded? What is the test?
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Originally Posted by Johnny M
Yes, taller is better, because tall men are generally faster and stronger than short men. Take a look at professional athletes in just about any physically demanding sport. The vast majority of them are over 6' tall and very few are below 5'10. If we lived in a primitive society, tall men would have a very clear survival ad
It depends a lot on the sport, sport. A lot of sports start off as games, where the goal is physically difficult to reach. An obvious example is basketball, where the basket is located "out of reach" intentionally. Tall helps in the general realm of 'ball passing' too, but that's a pretty artificial thing. For other more 'natural' sports like running there seems to be an optimal size, it's not a simple matter of bigger is better.
Distance runners are often quite small and free divers don't seem to be huge people.
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What about boxing? How many heavyweight champions are under 6'? The shortest guy I can think of is Mike Tyson and he's 5'11.5.
How many super flyweight boxers are over 6' 6? For that matter how many heavyweight boxers are over 7'?
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I didn't deny that it's an advantage in a social way, I'm not oblivious to reality, but for a guy to argue his own genetic superiority and then call other people insecure is really something else.
If it helps him make grandkids, it's a genetic plus, otherwise, it's neutral at best. Bigger people are harder to feed, for one thing, so it's not all upside in the history of survival.
Guys, like I said earlier, I just got back from Germany. I saw plenty of short guys with women there. And this is Germany, land of the aryan giants.. Maybe european women are more forgiving, but I saw it with my own eyes, and lots of them.
If it helps him make grandkids, it's a genetic plus, otherwise, it's neutral at best. Bigger people are harder to feed, for one thing, so it's not all upside in the history of survival.
I like respect your post as you are not fundamental. However Id like to point out a few thinks and lets see if you agree.
Bigger people are harder to feed BUT when they are fed it points out at their survival skills. Predators are less likely to single out tall and fit. If you come accross a bear make yourself look bigger
My point is being taller was and still is an evolutionary advantage. Most visible one on first sight but nevertheless important because enemies are put off by first sight too.
I can understand that someone can see it as injustice. "I have black belt and they are not afraid of me and my friend is total wuss but he is tall and everyone is afraid of him. And chicks look at him more, eventhough Im smarter". All true but why to deny truth and try to change society bias. Girls prefer guys with money....is it necessary to start promoting communism just because it seems as injustice?
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Usually the women raising hell are fatties themselves. Considering most women are overweight and/or obese, expect to be torn a new one if you post in a forum about a preference for women that aren't overweight.
You're right in that there is a double standard, but that's because women can get away with it. Just look at online dating as an example. If a woman states a height preference (say 5'10" and above), she will likely offend short guys (which account for ~50% of the male population), but it's not likely any tall guys will see that as a problem as long as she is good looking.
OTOH, if a man was bold (and stupid enough) to state "no fatties" (or something to that effect) in his profile he would not only alienate overweight and obese women (which account for approximately 60% of the population), but he would also offend nearly every non-overweight woman and be seen as shallow. I would honestly be amazed if he received any responses from women.
The moral of the story is that women can get away with the double standard because enough men allow it.
I just think allot of wmen can be insensitive especially to short men..Its not just they have a preference for tall men which is fine but some women seem to have a condscennding attitude and almost bitterness towards short men ..
I just find it funny that allot of women are so insecure about their own looks and how theyre judged yet have no hesitation being insensitive when judging mens looks and theyre dislikes ..
They dont want to be judged harshly yet they judge so harshly..
Have you met my roommate? lol.
My roommate once told me that she likes guys over 6' tall because she wants a man who can protect her. My response was, "From what?" She didn't have an answer.
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OTOH, if a man was bold (and stupid enough) to state "no fatties" (or something to that effect) in his profile he would not only alienate overweight and obese women (which account for approximately 60% of the population), but he would also offend nearly every non-overweight woman and be seen as shallow. I would honestly be amazed if he received any responses from women.
If the rest of the guy's profile was interesting, I'd think that was funny. But then, I have a bit of a twisted sense of humor.
I don't see any problem with a guy wanting to date skinny girls. I don't want to date fat guys either. It's hard to stay in shape and eat healthy foods yourself if your partner is eating Twinkies and being lazy. (Excluding the very, very small percentage of people who do exercise and eat well but are still a little overweight.)
For some reason, it also offends people (especially women) that their mate would no longer be attracted to them if they were originally skinny and got fat during the relationship. That doesn't make sense to me either.
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