Funny how everyone thinks "fighting back" has to be with fists and violence.
Where did you read about fists and violence?
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Well, in fairness, it seems implied by some, and when people discuss 'self-defence' they generally think of "protecting yourself by giving as good as you get".....
So although nobody has mentioned it specifically, I would suggest that Knaveman is not far off the mark.
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Well, in fairness, it seems implied by some, and when people discuss 'self-defence' they generally think of "protecting yourself by giving as good as you get".....
That's what I was thinking off, I think it's what most people think of as well.
If you have nothing to add that helps the OP, don't add at all. I doubt he wants to hear from a Darwinist anyway. If you want to debate religion start a new thread and I'll find you there.
I meant to add that some Christians do follow the OT and believe in many of the Laws. I was simply pointing out that there are different beliefs. The rest of your reply needs no comment, but thank you.
Christian novelist Frank Peretti wrote a fantastic book on bullying, called No More Bullies – from what I recall, at the back of the book he gave a list of resources for parents, victims and perpetrators to consult. Really good stuff, based on the premise that people bully because they refuse to see God in their victim ... Your SIL might get some good ideas from this book.
you might also remind her that Jesus chased the money-changers from the temple ...
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I'd love a source or reference to that little snippet.
Just out of interest. I'm not being argumentative, nor am I a Christian, I'm just curious as to where that info stems from!
Quinch, hitting people as a form of instigating aggression, is wrong, but self-defence comes in many forms.
I am of the opinion that contrary popular opinion, bullying is taken seriously - but sometimes it takes an adult to make a fuss on a child's behalf....
Your cousin's mother and father should be doing something.
Are they aware this is going on?
It's not up to your brother to take a stand on this....
I called the fellow who owned the books you're asking reference to; he is an old ex and has not returned my call. This translation was not something I learned on Teh Intarwebs, so it isn't such an easy thing to link. I will contact you with the info when he gets back to me. Till then, all I can say is he was a seminary school drop out and Theology hobbyist.
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I read this thread awhile back and just couldn't come up with anything for this post, until now.
As it dawned on me back then, I fail to see the need for a "Christian" response, or any religion for that matter. What is needed in this case is an adult response.
This child needs an adult advocate to help bring this situation to an end. If that involves meeting with the other parents, the police, counselling, all of these combined - this is what needs to happen.
I am in the group that believes that bullying is needed to be handled head on. Not hoping that it will go away on its own, or that the poor kid being bullied grows a spine.
I was bullied as a child - but usually never longer than a week or so. I did exactly what I am advocating here (in addition to being a bit fiesty myself, though) - I got an adult with some authority involved.
I hope this situation is being handled and that things are getting better for the child.
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I would tell the kid to beat the hell out of them. That's what I did one time when a kid kept shoving me and was starting to hit me. I first warned him if he does it again, I'll hit him. Warnings never worked, beating them back does. Last thing I know is it didn't took too long before making him cry. That's was funny. Even funnier is when the almost the whole school saw it and from then on, he was the laughingstock.
One funny statement I recall a kid said to him, I heard you go sucking on boys' cock, is that true? or Did mommy gave you a lollipop? LOL.. so much he had to undergo with those kids for losing the fight to me.
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And if you think that gains you any respect or congratulations from anyone, think again.
The bottom line is, you are no better than he was.
To delight and celebrate in the humiliation of another human being, puts you in the same category - and in the same mind frame - as the same sadistic and mindless army guards who enjoy putting their prisoners through humiliation and degradation.
To find pleasure in the continued mockery of another fellow human being, makes you less human than he is.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
And before you fire off a broadside at me, I made a long-lasting and ever-present friend of a person who bullied me mercilessly at school, and even landed me in hospital.
Because when one day, I saw her in trouble and stopped to help her, it transformed our relationship in an instant.
Kindness works much better than hatred and revenge, always.
If not for them, then certainly on you.
you should try it some time.
Or else wear the reputation of a bully. Just like him.
Good for you. Just like you, I got my own story too. The point in my story is I taught that boy a lesson, don't mess with the wrong person and do expect to get strike if you hit first.
As for you, I don't know how were you able to be that forgiving. But it's alright that's you. I would only be forgiving if that person acknowledges he/she was wrong and apologizes for it.
That boy never admitted he was wrong anyways. Thus there was no point in making peace with him plus even after beating him, he would walked pass me with a frown on his face. One thing for sure, he was scared of me, never got nasty nor said any insults at me anymore.
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You don't get it.
The thread title seeks a Christian response.
There is nothing remotely 'Christian' about your approach.
Unless of course, you're George Bush - Pious and God-fearing, but still gung-ho war-crazy.....And what a muddled mind he had.....
Your responses have no justification, neither do you have anything to be proud of.
As for my ability to be that forgiving - It's a choice.
Just as you 'choose' "only be forgiving if that person acknowledges he/she was wrong and apologizes for it."
I call this self-limiting and blinkered.
But that, as you say, is alright, it's me.
But as 'me' I carry no resentment, animosity or intolerance.
It takes work.
But it's preferable to anger an wanting to wreak revenge by beating the $h1t out of someone.
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I would tell the kid to beat the hell out of them. That's what I did one time when a kid kept shoving me and was starting to hit me. I first warned him if he does it again, I'll hit him. Warnings never worked, beating them back does. Last thing I know is it didn't took too long before making him cry. That's was funny. Even funnier is when the almost the whole school saw it and from then on, he was the laughingstock.
One funny statement I recall a kid said to him, I heard you go sucking on boys' cock, is that true? or Did mommy gave you a lollipop? LOL.. so much he had to undergo with those kids for losing the fight to me.
I totally agree mate. Don't listen to other people telling you you're just as bad as him. He deserved it, you didn't, there's a big difference between a bully picking on innocent people and a bully being given what he deserves. And what you did would've gained you respect with most people.
I wouldn't bother with arguing about it with people on here though, because you'll never be able to make them see sense.
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