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Old 19th January 2018, 3:50 AM   #31
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How do I ask her apt. # w/o sounding like a creep?
You don't need it. She can come out to meet you.
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Old 19th January 2018, 4:38 AM   #32
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Just call her when you get there.
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Old 31st January 2018, 12:34 AM   #33
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Just an update on my adventures. She really liked the paint idea. She was talking about some movies, so since it was around 11pm and everything was closed, I suggested we watch a movie at her place; she agreed. We started to watch a movie and she snuggled with me, then she put her legs on me, and was on top of me for a bit while we were making out. I thought it was a pretty good sign, but she pushed away my hands from her butt and breasts. No problem, didn't try it again. She said it was only the second date. Again, no problem. She texted me a couple days later and asked me if I hung my painting up yet, I then called her to speak a bit and set the next date. I suggested I cook for her at my place, she agreed. It should normally take about 45 mins to get to her place to mine, but she took a different route and there was traffic. I cooked dinner, she cleaned up and we watched another movie. She snuggled next to me during the movie and put her legs on top of mine. Kissing and heavy making out again, but she kept on pushing my hands away from her butt and breasts. Again, not a problem. She left about 12am Sunday, and asked me to walk her to her car. I said sure, so she grabbed my hand and she started to walk. We went to her car and again a kissing a minute or so goodbye. I asked her to text me when she got home, and she did. I said I had a nice time and good night. She replied Me too and good night.

Just a bit confused on if she's interested or not. Trying not to over think things. I do not want to seem overzealous so If I do not hear from her this week, I was going to reach on Monday. Truth be told, we're moving where I work 30 mins away, and I am exhausted when I get home. This week, I've been too tired to cook dinner. I just fall asleep on the couch when I walk in. She is having a performance review that she seemed nervous about on Thursday. I asked her to call me and let me know how it works out.

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Old 31st January 2018, 12:40 AM   #34
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Jimbo, if you keep groping her she's going to lose interest - if she hasn't been put off already.

Pushing your hands away once should have been a sign to back it up a bit and slow down with the physical. But the fact she had to repeat it would probably be a bit of a warning for her. It might be "no problem" for you, but I suspect she's more wary of you pushing her boundaries.

If she agrees to see you again, let her set the pace for the physical stuff.
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Old 31st January 2018, 12:44 AM   #35
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Jimbo, if you keep groping her she's going to lose interest - if she hasn't been put off already.

Pushing your hands away once should have been a sign to back it up a bit and slow down with the physical. But the fact she had to repeat it would probably be a bit of a warning for her. It might be "no problem" for you, but I suspect she's more wary of you pushing her boundaries.

If she agrees to see you again, let her set the pace for the physical stuff.
It was once on the second date and then once on the third date. Not sure how you got the understanding I was repeating the act.
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Old 31st January 2018, 12:46 AM   #36
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It was once on the second date and then once on the third date. Not sure how you got the understanding I was repeating the act.
You did it on the second date and again on the third date. This is repeating the act.
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Old 31st January 2018, 12:50 AM   #37
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You did it on the second date and again on the third date. This is repeating the act.
Ever hear of in the heat of the moment?
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Old 31st January 2018, 12:51 AM   #38
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If she agrees to see you again, let her set the pace for the physical stuff.
This!!!
Always let the woman set the pace. Everyone is different.
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Old 31st January 2018, 12:57 AM   #39
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Ever hear of in the heat of the moment?
I had first date sex with my husband. I know what heat of the moment is

But if she was pushing you away, she wasn't feeling it. Or if she was feeling it, she wasn't ready to act on it. Taking things further isn't just about when you're ready - it's about when you're BOTH ready.

Getting it wrong once can be put down to a misreading of the situation. Getting it wrong twice shows that you're struggling with the concepts of consent.
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Old 31st January 2018, 2:13 AM   #40
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Again, I wasn't thinking I did anything inappropriate as she was grabbing me in certain areas. Which is kind of weird as towards the end of the night this past weekend, she then put my hand on her butt. So, I am a bit perplexed on how to proceed. One would think, if she was upset, then she would not had gotten on top of me and grinded and grabbed be all over the place. In addition, then pull my hand outside to walk her to her car and then make out again.

Like I said, it was in the heat of the moment and when she first pushed my hands way, by default I did and didn't proceed. I thought I was putting her in the drivers seat on how far to go. I did call her a tease a few times. She retorted she wasn't and smiled.

So, yes, I am a bit perplexed. It's a bit like walking on eggshells on how to proceed and not screw up.
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Old 31st January 2018, 1:49 PM   #41
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I think she sounds like she's sending mixed messages and teasing. I can see why you're confused. Especially if she was sitting on top of you while kissing you, and then pushing your hands off her butt. That sounds like a really big tease.
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Old 31st January 2018, 6:46 PM   #42
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I think she sounds like she's sending mixed messages and teasing. I can see why you're confused. Especially if she was sitting on top of you while kissing you, and then pushing your hands off her butt. That sounds like a really big tease.
You have no idea...
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Yes its a great idea!!
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Old 3rd February 2018, 6:05 PM   #44
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Take a real art class painting a nude and see where that goes. lol
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You can talk about letting the woman take the lead when it comes to being physical all you want but it's not so easy sometimes. It's a dance. You have to be sensitive to cues. Learn to read her receptivity.

If she's sitting on top of you, grinding on you, touching you and then pushing you away either she is being a tease or you are touching her in a way she doesn't like. Try gentle caresses instead of groping. Never go directly there. Look for receptivity first.

Just to show you how bad teasing can get... a few years ago I go back to a woman's place. She straddles me, pulls her top off and starts grinding on me. I touched her breast and she told me no and asked me to just lay back. I did. She pulled my jeans off then she ground herself on me in just her panties until she had an orgasm. Then she told me I needed to go. As I left I blocked her number. I never saw her again after that. Just a tad awkward for awhile since I work with her sister.
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