BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Why is it so important to women that the guy has been with other women? Why do women accuse inexperienced guys especially virgins of being entitled? Why do women take advantage of them by leading them on and then going cold? How can an inexperienced guy gain experience if no women will give it him? Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 How can an inexperienced guy gain experience if no women will give it him? A good start is to stop blaming everyone else for your own situation. If you don't like the position that you're in, start working to change it. Work on yourself...confidence and social skills can be improved with effort. The only thing holding you back is yourself. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 A good start is to stop blaming everyone else for your own situation. If you don't like the position that you're in, start working to change it. Work on yourself...confidence and social skills can be improved with effort. The only thing holding you back is yourself. Wrong because women are not interested in inexperienced guys. An inexperienced guy with confidence and social skills is STILL INEXPERIENCED. Link to post Share on other sites
h0000 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It is because you are undesired that you are inexperienced. Not the other way around. Plus what Almond said 4 Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Wrong because women are not interested in inexperienced guys. An inexperienced guy with confidence and social skills is STILL INEXPERIENCED. It's not wrong. Every guy was inexperienced as some point or another, and many still are to some degree. Plenty of men are able to deal with/overcome this just fine, so blaming women for your predicament is hardly fair. If you're confident, charismatic and can treat a woman with respect, then why can't you gain this "experience" that you speak of? No one needs to know that you're inexperienced. I repeat - you're holding yourself back, and have no one to blame for this other than yourself. If you're unhappy, then you have the power to fix it - it's all up to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 It is because you are undesired that you are inexperienced. Not the other way around. Plus what Almond said True that undesired leads to inexperience. But inexperience makes a guy undesirable. There's no way out is there? All this have confidence and social skills doesn't do any good. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 It's not wrong. Every guy was inexperienced as some point or another, and many still are to some degree. Plenty of men are able to deal with/overcome this just fine, so blaming women for your predicament is hardly fair. If you're confident, charismatic and can treat a woman with respect, then why can't you gain this "experience" that you speak of? No one needs to know that you're inexperienced. I repeat - you're holding yourself back, and have no one to blame for this other than yourself. If you're unhappy, then you have the power to fix it - it's all up to you. Every guy was but if a guy makes it past 30 without experience, there's no way out of the hole. A guy can be all that but women can easily figure out inexperience and when she finds out, goodbye. Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 True that undesired leads to inexperience. But inexperience makes a guy undesirable. There's no way out is there? All this have confidence and social skills doesn't do any good. You appear to be totally focused on making yourself into a victim here, and seem firm on that. That sort of attitude is a lot more off-putting and obvious to women than "inexperience." I have a pretty strong feeling that the things that make you undesirable to the opposite sex are quite different to what you think they are. Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Every guy was but if a guy makes it past 30 without experience, there's no way out of the hole. A guy can be all that but women can easily figure out inexperience and when she finds out, goodbye. If you've made it past 30 without experience with women, despite your efforts, why do you think that is? But now suddenly, after the age of 30, all of those reasons don't matter at all? You haven't changed them, haven't worked on yourself...and now women are unfair and judgemental because they won't sleep with you? And you figure that this is simply because you lack experience? It has nothing to do with the reasons that you were unable to connect with women in the first place? Come on now. Your situation can improve if you put in the work. If you continue to blame others and paint yourself as the victim, you'll stay right where you are. Link to post Share on other sites
h0000 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 True that undesired leads to inexperience. But inexperience makes a guy undesirable. There's no way out is there? All this have confidence and social skills doesn't do any good. No confidence is not enough. Maybe you lack swag, maybe you are over-weight, maybe you are ugly, maybe your job isn't satisfying, maybe you go for the wrong kind of women etc etc Every guy went from inexperience to experience and only you didnt. thats more of your problems than others. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 You appear to be totally focused on making yourself into a victim here, and seem firm on that. That sort of attitude is a lot more off-putting and obvious to women than "inexperience." I have a pretty strong feeling that the things that make you undesirable to the opposite sex are quite different to what you think they are. Then why have women told me in plain English that it's an issue for most women? Why? Why can't women just admit it or this part of the pattern of women being so called nice? Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Then why have women told me in plain English that it's an issue for most women? Why? Why can't women just admit it or this part of the pattern of women being so called nice? Oh I totally admit, a virgin at the age of 30 is a massive red flag for me for a number of reasons. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 No confidence is not enough. Maybe you lack swag, maybe you are over-weight, maybe you are ugly, maybe your job isn't satisfying, maybe you go for the wrong kind of women etc etc Every guy went from inexperience to experience and only you didnt. thats more of your problems than others. Is swag acting like a so called cool gangster? If it is no thanks. Every guy THAT HAS EXPERIENCE has gone from inexperienced to experienced. I don't see older inexperienced guys getting any experience no matter what they look like or do. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Oh I totally admit, a virgin at the age of 30 is a massive red flag for me for a number of reasons. We're finally getting somewhere. You admit virgin at 30 is actually a red flag, in other words you won't be taking his virginity. I respect you for admitting it. How's this 30 year old going to lose his virginity when the amount of women willing to take it is essentially zilch? How? You answered the question already. Not gonna happen. Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Is swag acting like a so called cool gangster? If it is no thanks. Every guy THAT HAS EXPERIENCE has gone from inexperienced to experienced. I don't see older inexperienced guys getting any experience no matter what they look like or do. If experience to you means a few dates, or simply just having sex...why do you think that inexperience is stopping you? No need to tell anyone that you're a virgin. You see it as impossible, but you are quite obviously wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 If experience to you means a few dates, or simply just having sex...why do you think that inexperience is stopping you? No need to tell anyone that you're a virgin. You see it as impossible, but you are quite obviously wrong. Inexperience is dates, sex, a longer term relationship. It's all of the above Women can easily tell when a guy is experienced after just a couple of dates if not sooner. Just his body language can give it all away even if he's trying to hide it. Women are amazing at reading body language. Link to post Share on other sites
barcode88 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 If you're a virgin at 30 you either go to an escort or lie. Honestly OP you're coming off as bitter, and it's not going to change anything for you. You need to self improve and be in control of your own life instead of externalizing your issues on others. Link to post Share on other sites
almond Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Inexperience is dates, sex, a longer term relationship. It's all of the above Women can easily tell when a guy is experienced after just a couple of dates if not sooner. Just his body language can give it all away even if he's trying to hide it. Women are amazing at reading body language. So the fact that you are insecure about your lack of experience is now what's holding you back? Women aren't mind readers. If your body language is that awkward that it's apparent that you're hiding something or scared, then that is certainly off-putting and up to you to work on. Again, if you put in the work, this can change. Link to post Share on other sites
h0000 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 We're finally getting somewhere. You admit virgin at 30 is actually a red flag, in other words you won't be taking his virginity. I respect you for admitting it. How's this 30 year old going to lose his virginity when the amount of women willing to take it is essentially zilch? How? You answered the question already. Not gonna happen. How? Go to Vegas and get a prostitute and practice sex with them. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Become a MGTOW and enjoy the incel life? lol Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 If you're a virgin at 30 you either go to an escort or lie. Honestly OP you're coming off as bitter, and it's not going to change anything for you. You need to self improve and be in control of your own life instead of externalizing your issues on others. Why should a virgin at 30 be forced to lie? Fact. Even if he does lie women can usually figure out he is lying. As for escorts, it's not really sex. The escorts don't want to **** you but they do so because they want the money. No self respecting guy would touch an escort. YUCK Link to post Share on other sites
Sunyata Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 If you're a virgin at 30 you either go to an escort or lie. Honestly OP you're coming off as bitter, and it's not going to change anything for you. You need to self improve and be in control of your own life instead of externalizing your issues on others. I understand the bitterness but it is indeed completely useless. I think most men who are virgins that late have a disruption to their sense of identity or ego. Perhaps neglect as a child, or a lack of recognition for their subjectivity, or other problems. At least that's been the biggest challenge in my life, luckily I'm not a virgin and had little instances like girls who clearly were intrigued by me, even before I lost it.... A male not being embodied within himself is a gigantic turnoff for women. I feel like I understand why but can't explain it. But it just does not feel safe, and women want to feel safe. Link to post Share on other sites
barcode88 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Also OP if you think everything is peachy for the rest of us guess again. http://jeffzelaya.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Success-is-like-an-iceberg.png Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 But being serious, have you done things to make yourself attractive? Get in good shape, get a nice style, learn how to seduce a lady with the right words and gazes? Link to post Share on other sites
Author BigCanyon Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 So the fact that you are insecure about your lack of experience is now what's holding you back? Women aren't mind readers. If your body language is that awkward that it's apparent that you're hiding something or scared, then that is certainly off-putting and up to you to work on. Again, if you put in the work, this can change. Fact. Women are experts at trading body language and I marvel in a way on when women can figure out without even telling them. Lack of experience beyond 30 means it's over. Link to post Share on other sites
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