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There have been a couple threads in the past couple of days about OLD. Did it work, did it not work? Most guys said it's a waste of time. Guys message girls that don't respond, so they message the next and the next, until they hit the bottom of the barrel with girls 2 times their size. I've seen so many great profiles on okcupid redit from fairly good looking guys having no luck. There's always somebody that pops up online saying the problem is you, work on yourself. Well the problem is you, unfortunately there's only so much you can do to improve yourself. From send better messages than "hi, hello" to read their profile and find common interest to any other tip. I myself 31 5'11" 180 lbs had really bad results with girls age 21-35, I think maybe older people have better results, IDK.

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I didnt read your links but OLD is absolutely not a waste of time.

 

I'm seeing 9 girls right now sleeping with 3 of them and have lined up dates upon replying to a message at 8am set up the date by 10am and went back to sleep on a Sunday morning.

 

Tinder is the fastest, but the dates are a bit sketchy because theres no real profile

POF and OKC and the like you have to just put in a shift messaging for an hour each day and after a week or two you will be getting great results.

 

I've met girls off of all three even nexted a few.

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I didnt read your links but OLD is absolutely not a waste of time.

 

I'm seeing 9 girls right now sleeping with 3 of them and have lined up dates upon replying to a message at 8am set up the date by 10am and went back to sleep on a Sunday morning.

 

Tinder is the fastest, but the dates are a bit sketchy because theres no real profile

POF and OKC and the like you have to just put in a shift messaging for an hour each day and after a week or two you will be getting great results.

 

I've met girls off of all three even nexted a few.

 

If you could provide some kind of proof, cause that's what the links are PROOF. See your one of those people I was referring to that pops up online and ceases to exist in the real world. Otherwise your not credible and probably lying.

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Lol that's funny, ktya, you must be some type of god. That's me in my avatar picture, and even I couldn't pull those numbers back when I had a profile.

 

Are you Zyzz in real life? Gotta be

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If you could provide some kind of proof, cause that's what the links are PROOF. See your one of those people I was referring to that pops up online and ceases to exist in the real world. Otherwise your not credible and probably lying.

 

HAHAHAA

 

Beleive me bud I'm not lying.

 

I look down at my blackberry hub screen sometimes and it's filled with chicks I'm texting several of whom I've slept with all of whom I've met in person through OLD.

 

I thought about sending a screen cap but it shows their first and last names, not worth violating their privacy to satisfy your desire for proof.

 

Beleive me man, it can be done.

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Lol that's funny, ktya, you must be some type of god. That's me in my avatar picture, and even I couldn't pull those numbers back when I had a profile.

 

Are you Zyzz in real life? Gotta be

 

I'm not a god... but I am a professional investment sales rep so I'm sure the work skills are transferrable. ;)

 

But what is Zyzz?

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No I look nothing like that guy. I'm 37 in decent shape with an average build. Youngest girl I got her number was 20. Oldest is 42. I reject fat chicks instantly, I find they're harder to land in the sack than the ones with self confidence and ten times the pain in the a**.

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No I look nothing like that guy. I'm 37 in decent shape with an average build. Youngest girl I got her number was 20. Oldest is 42. I reject fat chicks instantly, I find they're harder to land in the sack than the ones with self confidence and ten times the pain in the a**.

 

 

Lmao funny ****. Do you live near a major city, tho? If so, which

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Maybe I'll give the OP some tips...

 

1. Keep your initial message short and sweet. I know girls say they hate this but in OLD you are going to be grinding out tons of messages most of which will never be answered and the more you say is the more chance you have to say something wrong. I usually launch it with "Hi ____, nice to meet you. My name is _____. You have plans for this weekend?" If its too early in the week I ask about the week itself.

 

2. Keep the initial exchange of messages short. Do the back and forth thing go ahead learn about eachother a bit but take it to text message as soon as it seems possible. Good line is, "I hate messaging on <app>, whats your number lets text, I'll be able to respond faster". Dont do this until you have a bit of a back and forth going but do it as soon as you think possible. Once you have their number it's a whole different ballgame.

 

3. First text you send send a couple good pictures and ask them to save your number in their phone. I learned this one with this one girl who didnt save my number and when I was trying to firm up the date she had me mixed up with some other punk who kept calling her incessantly and she was trying to ignore me until she figured it out. The pictures give them incentive to add you to the phone book.

 

4. Text back and forth for a bit and set up a meeting in a public place as soon as possible. Avoid coffee dates because WTF are you going to do at the end of a coffee date? You need to land the kiss ASAP and after chatting over coffee it feels more like the end of an interview than a date. If they insist on coffee set up the next date during the coffee and keep it short.

 

5. Prefer going out for drinks and/or dinner. To keep it cheap go out for appies and drinks. The alcohol loosens you both up and it tends to be at night so its easier to get them back to your place afterwards. If you do get them to come to your house afterwards ensure to have some vodka or rum kicking around so you can keep it going. Let them pour their own drinks so they dont think your trying to get them drunk. They'll do it all by themselves and will find it endearing and trusting that you want them to feel safe.

 

6. HIT THAT ****. Once you kiss a girl it rewires their brain. Either they will reject you, or the confusion will swirl in their brain as to what they think of you. If they reject you its over. If they actually kiss you just keep going.

 

7. Be honest. If you are dating other people and they ask, tell them. Dont fall into the stupid trap of pretending that they are the only girl in the universe. They will either think you are lying or are pathetic. Chances are they are dating a few guys themselves so then they wont feel bad. I tell all the girls I date that I have no real interest in a girlfriend and just want to keep it casual. Ten years ago I would have thought that that was anathema, but in actuality it gives them security that your not going to go all creeper stalker on them and will leave them alone if they want to break it off. If they want to land you as a boyfriend they will be the ones trying. The aloofness tends to turn them on and make them want to rope you in.

 

Girls want a guy who takes what he wants. Remember this at each stage of the game, starting from asking for their number to lining up the first date to landing the first kiss to getting them back to your place to making out with them to having sex the first time. After you've laid them you can chill out a bit and start asking for their opinion on what to do next.

 

Hope this helps!:rolleyes:

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Lmao funny ****. Do you live near a major city, tho? If so, which

 

Yes I live in a major city. Vancouver. Population of the metro area is about 3 million.

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kyta your advice is right out of page 1 of the unwritten OLD book and it doesn't work. Now if you'd take a fraction of the time it took you write that and look the links I posted, you'd see the user names are blacked out and you can black out anything you don't want to show.

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kyta your advice is right out of page 1 of the unwritten OLD book and it doesn't work. Now if you'd take a fraction of the time it took you write that and look the links I posted, you'd see the user names are blacked out and you can black out anything you don't want to show.

 

Whatever. Beleive what you want man. Its working for me like a hot damn. Just trying to help a brotha out.

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Plenty of alcohol secures good results.

 

That's the way to bring OLD to real life action. Get from the iPorn to the bar ASAP.

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Folks, posting commercial links or links to competing forums is a one-way ticket to banning so don't do it. Post your own truth about what really works for guys regarding online dating. Thanks!

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Folks, posting commercial links or links to competing forums is a one-way ticket to banning so don't do it. Post your own truth about what really works for guys regarding online dating. Thanks!

 

My link was a LS post. :-)

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Folks, posting commercial links or links to competing forums is a one-way ticket to banning so don't do it. Post your own truth about what really works for guys regarding online dating. Thanks!

 

My bad, I didn't know, you can lock or delete this thread, no biggie.

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I didnt read your links but OLD is absolutely not a waste of time.

 

I'm seeing 9 girls right now sleeping with 3 of them and have lined up dates upon replying to a message at 8am set up the date by 10am and went back to sleep on a Sunday morning.

 

Tinder is the fastest, but the dates are a bit sketchy because theres no real profile

POF and OKC and the like you have to just put in a shift messaging for an hour each day and after a week or two you will be getting great results.

 

I've met girls off of all three even nexted a few.

 

 

 

Are we supposed to be impressed? I'm not impressed.

 

 

And I say this with having decent luck using OLD. I'm trying to find a serious relationship. I have no idea what ktya is doing, but I'm just not impressed.

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Well I'm a guy, I do OLD and it works wonders for me.

 

View image: talkmatch - My inbox. This is just filtered for Match.com. I can show you 20 more pages from Match (talkmatch) and OKCupid. You can believe me or not, I don't care. The bottom line is that I had to actually work for it. It wasn't as simple as "sending a better message."

 

OLD is a date factory if you're someone people want to meet. I never message anyone first unless they "wink" or "like." I go on 1-6 dates a month and the girls are a great combination of stunning, smart, and successful at least 50% of the time. Broadway actresses, Soap Opera stars, Ivy League grads, doctors, etc.

 

. There's always somebody that pops up online saying the problem is you, work on yourself. Well the problem is you, unfortunately there's only so much you can do to improve yourself. From send better messages than "hi, hello" to read their profile and find common interest to any other tip. I myself 31 5'11" 180 lbs had really bad results with girls age 21-35, I think maybe older people have better results, IDK.

 

Well I'm that guy. When people say "work on yourself" they mean things like work towards getting a more desirable job, improve your standing in the world, get in noticeably great shape, or accomplish something notable. Not "send better messages." I'm not trying to be insulting or make assumptions about you, but for guys in general: hypothetically if you're just an average person with an average life and average outlook, why is it so hard to believe that you get only average results? I'm not trying to say "I'm better than you," I'm saying "I did it, so if you want it that badly, why don't you?"

 

Height/weight/BMI isn't the be all/end all. I'm not a movie star. I'm 27 years old, 5'10, 145 lbs (yeah, you read that correctly). I worked on making an honest, different, hilarious profile. I edited it down to the most efficient word. I studied girl's profiles I liked, I noted distinctions and attitudes about them and used them to help reverse-craft my own with own unique nuances. I've also spent my 27 years trying to be the best possible person I could be. I've optimized everything about my life and the OLD process. Mediocrity and an average life is of no interest to me. I want to be the best person I can be and also date the girls who have the same mindset.

 

How did I do it? Girls tend to like funny, successful, ambitious, confident guys -- there is no secret about that. I realized that when I was 14. So I did everything I could to hone myself from that point on. I wanted girls so I made sure they wanted me. If you want a girl that badly, why not increase your chances and do everything you can do to improve yourself and appeal to them? Simply making a profile and being a certain height/weight isn't enough. It's Social Darwinism. If you want the most success, you have to be one of the best. And that's a lot of work. Over the course of a lifetime. I don't understand how guys just wake up one day when they're 30 and only then realize what women want, and the fact that they could've incorporating those things and enriching their lives their whole youth. If you want women that badly, do something real about it now before it's too late.

 

And stop blaming the technology.

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a million women giving you some of their attention doesn't come close to that One giving you all of theirs.

 

That "One" is hard to find in a sea of those million when doing online dating.

 

just sayin'

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Are we supposed to be impressed? I'm not impressed.

 

And I say this with having decent luck using OLD. I'm trying to find a serious relationship. I have no idea what ktya is doing, but I'm just not impressed.

 

If you're looking for a serious relationship, then of course you would be taking a different track than me. I had 17 years of back to back cohabiting relationships, I'm looking to really get out there and have a good time.

 

Some of the girls I've met off of OLD in the past 7 months, well I've been seeing them for six months. The kind of relationship I have with them is obviously not what your looking for, but different strokes for different folks.

 

My point was that OLD can and does work. Once you get the first date, its "IRL" from that point on and you can try to take it wherever you want it to go.

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