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I never had the guts to call out on a friday but today I see several people did it with no problem. I guess since I experienced so many layoffs, It would take me about 5 years to call out on a friday. I actually seen someone call our on a pay Friday. Unbelievable.

 

 

Has anyone ever called out on a friday?

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I know a woman who works for the City.

 

If she felt she was treated unfairly by co-workers, with too much counter duty, etc. - She would call in sick the following Monday, to get back at them. :laugh: (Since cutbacks, I think she is now more appreciate of her job)

 

Ah, these govt workers. :rolleyes:

 

And they get all kinds of time off. Family time, sick time, holidays .. All of it.

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federal employee. i call off on fridays or mondays all the time for a nice 3-day weekend. you don't get any heat - ever. government jobs are highly protected and even your supervisors don't really have any authority over you.

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federal employee. i call off on fridays or mondays all the time for a nice 3-day weekend. you don't get any heat - ever. government jobs are highly protected and even your supervisors don't really have any authority over you.

 

Why doesn't your supervisor have any authority over you?

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Why doesn't your supervisor have any authority over you?

 

because - although they hold a 'higher' position - your actual supervisor is the government. you're protected by bylaws and regulations and your supervisor cannot take actions that conflict with your employee protections. when i was a state employee we had union protection too. so they can "write you up" but that leads nowhere because, ultimately, they can never fire you. they are essentially the same as you although their position is different. so even the most horrible employees rarely get reprimanded beyond a written warning because the supervisors cannot take action against you. it is really true that you get these jobs and only leave them in a coffin. they are for life. it's very hard to get any discipline or be fired for anything, even calling out often and regularly. i was on a 2-hour walking lunch yesterday .. will anyone say anything? no. because a) no one cares enough and b) your supervisor often does the same. it's the lovely government at work.

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Not something needed since I work a compressed scheduled and get every other Friday off. Of course the reality is that I work 12 hour days and work most Fridays and weekends too. As far as the Gov scenario....don't know where that is but in my realm (I am a gov. contractor) that is NOT how the gov folks I work with operate. Now they have leave that they can take and this time of year many will be out more than in if they need to use up their leave (snooze you lose) but not at the expense of a task getting done. And more than once I have seen people removed when not performing however I do agree they don't become unemployed but typically moved to other programs/departments.

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I never call out on Friday. If anything, I call out on Thursdays. Everyone is happy on Friday, and that makes me happy, too.

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I have very rarely called out because most jobs I've had didn't offer sick or personal time so my day off would be unpaid. When I did I made sure to not do it on Friday or Monday. When its one or both of those days its pretty obvious you aren't really sick and I just don't want that kind of reputation. I have at times asked if I could come in early and therefore leave early on a Friday, but even that is rare.

 

Now that I have a job with a generous amount of sick leave I just can't see myself becoming the person who calls out for no reason. I remember how much is sucked being the staff left behind with extra work and don't want to treat others that way.

 

It isn't just government jobs that don't fire people who constantly call out. I've worked for nonprofits and private companies who have also allowed this kind of behavior. Why I'm not sure since there wasn't any kind of union to answer to.

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I would just be happy to have a job with paid vacation time. I never call out, because it is unpaid until next July when sick leave goes into effect for California for all employers. But still, it's only 3 days, so use it wisely.

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I mentioned to a coworker this evening, "im surprised someone would call out on a pay friday"

 

Her response was: "If they have direct deposit why not?"

 

 

smh

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because - although they hold a 'higher' position - your actual supervisor is the government. you're protected by bylaws and regulations and your supervisor cannot take actions that conflict with your employee protections. when i was a state employee we had union protection too. so they can "write you up" but that leads nowhere because, ultimately, they can never fire you. they are essentially the same as you although their position is different. so even the most horrible employees rarely get reprimanded beyond a written warning because the supervisors cannot take action against you. it is really true that you get these jobs and only leave them in a coffin. they are for life. it's very hard to get any discipline or be fired for anything, even calling out often and regularly. i was on a 2-hour walking lunch yesterday .. will anyone say anything? no. because a) no one cares enough and b) your supervisor often does the same. it's the lovely government at work.

 

You could not be further from the truth. One day, it will catch up with you. The utter lack of respect you show your employer is mind blowing. People in all parts of the world are looking for decent, well paying jobs, and you have one and take it for granted and think you can't be fired. Guess you haven't heard of government furlows or reduction in work force. It DOES happen to the federal government employees believe it or not.

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I have very rarely called out because most jobs I've had didn't offer sick or personal time so my day off would be unpaid. When I did I made sure to not do it on Friday or Monday. When its one or both of those days its pretty obvious you aren't really sick and I just don't want that kind of reputation. I have at times asked if I could come in early and therefore leave early on a Friday, but even that is rare.

 

Now that I have a job with a generous amount of sick leave I just can't see myself becoming the person who calls out for no reason. I remember how much is sucked being the staff left behind with extra work and don't want to treat others that way.

 

It isn't just government jobs that don't fire people who constantly call out. I've worked for nonprofits and private companies who have also allowed this kind of behavior. Why I'm not sure since there wasn't any kind of union to answer to.

 

One reason is because of the lack of respect people have and their refusal to own their behavior (like one of the previous posters who gloats about abusing her work environment) and the 'sue happy' people of today's society. It is getting harder and harder to fire/terminate people without loads of documentation..but I do believe there is a shift in this belief because of the abuse of benefits that so many are choosing to do.

 

Have I ever called out sick on a Friday when I wasn't really sick? Never. Not in over 20 years of working. Have I ever called out on a Friday just because? Probably once or twice in the last 20 years. I don't take my job for granted and want others to see what a strong work ethic I have.

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You could not be further from the truth. One day, it will catch up with you. The utter lack of respect you show your employer is mind blowing. People in all parts of the world are looking for decent, well paying jobs, and you have one and take it for granted and think you can't be fired. Guess you haven't heard of government furlows or reduction in work force. It DOES happen to the federal government employees believe it or not.

 

It does but I think the process is just extremely long when trying to fire a federal employee

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I would just be happy to have a job with paid vacation time. I never call out, because it is unpaid until next July when sick leave goes into effect for California for all employers. But still, it's only 3 days, so use it wisely.

 

That's not accurate "all California employers" don't have sick leave effective in July. My company's sick leave is given at the start of the fiscal year - October 1. Depending on the length of service, it can be from 2 weeks (for a new hire) to 4 weeks. Our sick leave rolls over every year. I have close to 400 hours of unused sick leave.

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You could not be further from the truth. One day, it will catch up with you. The utter lack of respect you show your employer is mind blowing. People in all parts of the world are looking for decent, well paying jobs, and you have one and take it for granted and think you can't be fired. Guess you haven't heard of government furlows or reduction in work force. It DOES happen to the federal government employees believe it or not.

 

don't be a hater. we have done furloughs, sure. but get fired? nope. and the longer that you're in government service the less chance you get fired. someone 1-3 years in could be let go, but someone with 15+ years. not happening unless they take a retirement package. the government will transfer a "problem employee" before they fire them. in my 15 years with the federal government only 2 people in my division were ever fired, for 1) coming to work stone drunk and 2) masturbating to porn on their office computer. short of that, you're golden. take it for granted? sure, sometimes. but do i get my work done? yes. so it's still not a 'free' paycheck, just one with lots of side benefits.

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It does but I think the process is just extremely long when trying to fire a federal employee

 

Depends on the situation. I have seen people escorted out of the government facility on a moments notice. When national security is involved, it isn't a long process.

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One reason is because of the lack of respect people have and their refusal to own their behavior (like one of the previous posters who gloats about abusing her work environment) and the 'sue happy' people of today's society. It is getting harder and harder to fire/terminate people without loads of documentation..but I do believe there is a shift in this belief because of the abuse of benefits that so many are choosing to do.

 

Have I ever called out sick on a Friday when I wasn't really sick? Never. Not in over 20 years of working. Have I ever called out on a Friday just because? Probably once or twice in the last 20 years. I don't take my job for granted and want others to see what a strong work ethic I have.

 

The people who do it at my job has been there 5 or 6 years so its a little different in their case. I haven't been at the job that long so I would never think of doing it

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don't be a hater. we have done furloughs, sure. but get fired? nope. and the longer that you're in government service the less chance you get fired. someone 1-3 years in could be let go, but someone with 15+ years. not happening unless they take a retirement package. the government will transfer a "problem employee" before they fire them. in my 15 years with the federal government only 2 people in my division were ever fired, for 1) coming to work stone drunk and 2) masturbating to porn on their office computer. short of that, you're golden. take it for granted? sure, sometimes. but do i get my work done? yes. so it's still not a 'free' paycheck, just one with lots of side benefits.

 

who's a hater? You are the one with a poor work ethic and brag about how you abuse the system.

 

Again, you are wrong. Maybe in your limited view of the government, you don't see what goes on. As I just stated above, I have seen people escorted out by security, losing their 'cushy' job. My point - bragging about your abuse of the system isn't cool and it is incredibly immature and unprofessional. It does happen and it depends on where you live, the environment you work in and the ethical behavior of the employees. There are many like you who take what you have for granted and use the system for your own gain. But there are thousands of people who would give their right arm to have a job - something you seem to take for granted. The majority of my co-workers have pride and a high work ethic --- I don't see a lot of the waste and abuse that you seem to enjoy at the tax payer's expense. I definitely don't see people bragging about it the way you have.

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The people who do it at my job has been there 5 or 6 years so its a little different in their case. I haven't been at the job that long so I would never think of doing it

 

and that type of professionalism is what sets you apart from others.

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and that type of professionalism is what sets you apart from others.

 

Yup, I called out once since 2013 and that was on a wednesday

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I don't call in sick unless I am actually sick.

 

 

I never have taken a day off work just because I felt like it.

 

 

I get paid holiday and there is some allowance on sick time but I don't factor it in as holiday, never have. It's not something an employee is 'owed'. It's there if it's needed.

I have a colleague who has been away from the office for 2 months. She found out she has cancer. She is working from home just now.

She is always right on top of her work and the only times you can't get hold of her during normal working hours are the time she is away from home having chemo and the morning of the day after as she is recovering from her treatment.

That is one of the reasons I don't play around with sick days as at some point I might really need them and if my company know I have not messed them around they will be empathetic and we would find a way to work around it and be flexible both ways.

 

 

I only took 2 full days off (1 for the funeral) when my Mum died back when I was 17 and then had 4 days off (again, 1 for the funeral) when my Dad died when I was 33 (I had all of his affairs to sort out and the funeral to arrange which I needed the time to get done).

 

 

Many companies look poorly on odd days off here and there and number of times absent due to sickness will send you higher up the list when any rounds of redundancies happen. That is what they look at first, alongside job performance and need of the role. It's not a case of last in first out anymore. companies want staff they can rely upon who will be there to do the job.

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Exactly Gemma. I don't even get why it is considered "normal" to call in sick or whatever on any day of the week if you are not really sick.

 

If I call in sick which averages about 2 days per year, it is only when I am too sick to come to work and I don't pay attention on what day of the week it is.

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federal employee. i call off on fridays or mondays all the time for a nice 3-day weekend. you don't get any heat - ever. government jobs are highly protected and even your supervisors don't really have any authority over you.

 

well...as someone whose father works for the government i can say this is true. in fact he no longer works mondays anymore and gets paid for working "at home" on that day, but i never see him doing much work. and he gets to take 3day weekends or 1week off when he wants...frequently.

 

they just get a lot of time off :sick:

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who's a hater? You are the one with a poor work ethic and brag about how you abuse the system.

 

Again, you are wrong. Maybe in your limited view of the government, you don't see what goes on. As I just stated above, I have seen people escorted out by security, losing their 'cushy' job. My point - bragging about your abuse of the system isn't cool and it is incredibly immature and unprofessional. It does happen and it depends on where you live, the environment you work in and the ethical behavior of the employees. There are many like you who take what you have for granted and use the system for your own gain. But there are thousands of people who would give their right arm to have a job - something you seem to take for granted. The majority of my co-workers have pride and a high work ethic --- I don't see a lot of the waste and abuse that you seem to enjoy at the tax payer's expense. I definitely don't see people bragging about it the way you have.

 

 

unless you are actually in a federal job you're clueless about how it works. the fact that you think tax-payers pay federal salaries is ignorant. and the people who are hardworking and dedicated after landing those jobs are the exception to the rule. i didn't go in that way - i'm a doctor and wanted to make a difference. but you see others take advantage and learn to follow suit. the abuses are really bad, so taking a long lunch and calling out sick here and there? very minimal "abuses"

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