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Old 19th September 2014, 10:36 AM   #1
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"Can you let me know I didn't get the job?"

I had a job interview last Thursday... thought it went well but I knew there was competition. They told me they wanted to make a decision soon, and would be in touch by the middle of the next week. (In my mind, that meant by Wednesday, two days ago).

I haven't heard a peep. I'm disappointed, because I think I can safely assume I didn't get the job. But I also think they should be obligated to get back to me one way or the other. (This was a really drawn-out application process that started back in July. There's been a lot of correspondence and build-up).

If they don't do the right thing and communicate with me, what should I do? Thinking of sending an email but not sure how to phrase it.
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Old 19th September 2014, 10:42 AM   #2
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I had a job interview last Thursday... thought it went well but I knew there was competition. They told me they wanted to make a decision soon, and would be in touch by the middle of the next week. (In my mind, that meant by Wednesday, two days ago).

I haven't heard a peep. I'm disappointed, because I think I can safely assume I didn't get the job. But I also think they should be obligated to get back to me one way or the other. (This was a really drawn-out application process that started back in July. There's been a lot of correspondence and build-up).

If they don't do the right thing and communicate with me, what should I do? Thinking of sending an email but not sure how to phrase it.
I've always followed up with a phone call. In your case I would have done it on Wednesday or Thursday, but it's never too late. Call today.
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Old 19th September 2014, 10:48 AM   #3
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I've always followed up with a phone call. In your case I would have done it on Wednesday or Thursday, but it's never too late. Call today.
Hmm, I feel like that's a little aggressive. I'd like to just shoot them a short email, I guess "checking in." I've written a couple drafts but they all sound kind of needy. I want a really professional tone.
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I disagree that it's aggressive. It shows initiative. Those people that interviewed you are too busy to follow up with everybody. They have their jobs to do, as well as the work for the empty position, as well as trying to decide on a new employee. Calling reminds them of you.

I don't typically hire people that don't have the confidence to make a follow up phone call. An email shows that you lack that confidence.
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Old 19th September 2014, 11:11 AM   #5
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I disagree that it's aggressive. It shows initiative. Those people that interviewed you are too busy to follow up with everybody. They have their jobs to do, as well as the work for the empty position, as well as trying to decide on a new employee. Calling reminds them of you.

I don't typically hire people that don't have the confidence to make a follow up phone call. An email shows that you lack that confidence.
Agree with what you're saying, but I've also heard the exact opposite sentiment: That being all "up in their face" comes across as demanding and confrontational.

They obviously have their reasons for not getting back to me. It's also possible (though not likely, IMO) that their decison-making process is taking longer than they anticipated.
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Old 19th September 2014, 11:20 AM   #6
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Agree with what you're saying, but I've also heard the exact opposite sentiment: That being all "up in their face" comes across as demanding and confrontational.

They obviously have their reasons for not getting back to me. It's also possible (though not likely, IMO) that their decison-making process is taking longer than they anticipated.
I can understand why you think that and you know the company you applied for better than I do, so the decision is ultimately yours.

But I'll say these two things:

One follow up phone call 7 days after the interview is not being all up in their face.

I once had an interview with a very well known firm and didn't hear anything for about four days. When I called to follow up, they thanked me for calling because they had been too busy and had forgotten about me. I ended up getting the job and worked there for four years. It has been a major boost to my career.

With that experience I am highly in favor of the follow up phone call. And now that I do hiring myself, I look for people with the confidence to make a quick call rather than waste time with email.

Good luck!
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Old 19th September 2014, 12:12 PM   #7
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If you're uncomfortable calling (I would be) send an email. Just say you really enjoyed your interview, you are very interested in the position and you just wanted to follow up and see where they are at in the decision making process.

It's not needy. It's normal!
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Old 19th September 2014, 12:12 PM   #8
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A call or an email is appropriate. Many companies interview and don't make immediate decisions because someone goes on vacation or other reasons. They may be still holding interviews. I know when I did interviewing, time between the first interview and the last interview could easily be a week.

Here is a followup...

Dear (Name):

Just wanted to follow up with an inquiry about our interview last Thursday. I enjoyed meeting with you and discussing the open position. Have you made your final decision regarding who is best for your needs?

While I feel that I am the best candidate (based on a reason), I can understand if you might have found someone else. When you have some time, could you let me know what you decided?

Thanks again for considering me. I appreciate the opportunity to have discussed your needs and how I can fulfill them.

Sincerely,
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I am sure that the above could be changed, but it was a quick off the cuff example of what a follow up email might look like. Personally, I always sent out a thank you letter if I was really interested in a position within a few days. A week later is not too late for an email IMO.
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Old 19th September 2014, 3:04 PM   #9
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I think at this stage it's perfectly reasonable to follow it up.

They gave you a deadline after all.


I would go with a phone call though as I agree to an extent that a mail can sound a little needy somehow.
With a call you are more likely to get a faster answer also.

There were two four times in my life that I took the opportunity to 'say' something rather than sit back and wait.
All of them paid off for me.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 10:47 AM   #10
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I ended up sending a very short follow-up email this morning. I didn't have the balls for the phone call.

At least they know I'm looking for an update.

I'm a bit miffed that they haven't communicated at all. It's a very small company, and, as I said, I've been involved in this hiring process since July.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 1:34 PM   #11
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I ended up sending a very short follow-up email this morning. I didn't have the balls for the phone call.

At least they know I'm looking for an update.

I'm a bit miffed that they haven't communicated at all. It's a very small company, and, as I said, I've been involved in this hiring process since July.
Move on to other prospects. Sometimes employers just aren't in any hurry to fill a position or they sometimes decide not to fill the position.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 2:14 PM   #12
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I'm glad I sent it. They actually responded fairly quickly with an update, telling me they haven't yet made a decision but hope to do so this week. They also said they appreciated that I reached out.

I do think if they were serious about hiring me, they'd already be having some conversations to negotiate salary, etc. ... my sense is they've already started that process with another candidate and are waiting until everything's set in stone. So I don't have my hopes up, but at least they're communicating.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 2:41 PM   #13
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You have the right mindset.
Stay positive. You could very well be the one they want.
I wish you the best.

Ps: firms not communicating back are indeed hell...I know that experience too well. Next time don't be afraid to call at all. It is not agressive if they gave you a deadline. Having said that I'm very much like you and I've chosen mail in the past too.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 3:09 PM   #14
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I'm glad I sent it. They actually responded fairly quickly with an update, telling me they haven't yet made a decision but hope to do so this week. They also said they appreciated that I reached out.

I do think if they were serious about hiring me, they'd already be having some conversations to negotiate salary, etc. ... my sense is they've already started that process with another candidate and are waiting until everything's set in stone. So I don't have my hopes up, but at least they're communicating.
It sounds exactly as they said. They haven't made a decision probably because they are in no hurry to fill the position. If they've moved forward, most likely they would have told you as such.

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Old 22nd September 2014, 3:16 PM   #15
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I definitely agree that people should be told they didn't get the job. Even if they haven't got through to an interview, an email isn't that hard to send!

However, I've heard success stories where people haven't heard, called to chase up and then were offered the job because they were clearly keen. Could be worth a go sometime!
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