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After being laid off yet again, I am convinced there is little job security these days. My boss had decided to hire an assistant with a real estate license as they decided they need someone who can do tasks for them that require a license. I can understand that, but I really wish they chose that route before hiring me. (Knowing I wasn't licensed) I've been working other employment around this job as I didn't want to jump from job to job. They were good to me and I would have hated leaving them high and dry. In the end, they laid me off suddenly, which is why I no longer believe in feeling indebted or obligated to an employer. My last position ended the assignment because they decided they wanted more experience. I'm really tired of wishy washy employers. Thank goodness I have another job with full time potential.

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Yep, I discovered that back in the good year 1979 and made a pledge to work towards, if not having job security, at least having the security of being in total control of it and not leaving it to the whims of others. If I don't have a job today, or tomorrow, I simply can point a finger into the mirror while shaving and know exactly who to blame.

 

IME, the hard part for employers around here these days is finding workers who believe they do have job security and desire to really work for the company. In my industry, it's not uncommon for employees to have worked for all competitors, several times, in their careers. They're always moving to the next best deal, leveraging each competitor against the other. Nature of the beast I guess.

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Yep, I discovered that back in the good year 1979 and made a pledge to work towards, if not having job security, at least having the security of being in total control of it and not leaving it to the whims of others. If I don't have a job today, or tomorrow, I simply can point a finger into the mirror while shaving and know exactly who to blame.

 

IME, the hard part for employers around here these days is finding workers who believe they do have job security and desire to really work for the company. In my industry, it's not uncommon for employees to have worked for all competitors, several times, in their careers. They're always moving to the next best deal, leveraging each competitor against the other. Nature of the beast I guess.

 

I can understand not working hard enough, but my last few positions were not as a result of my performance. These last two said they'd be happy to give me good recommendations. I just don't like how disposable employers make you feel when they one day decide that "we decided don't have enough experience and we don't want to take the time to train you" or "we decided we want someone else who is licensed". It's not that simple anymore just to go out and find another job. It's really discouraging and this is exactly why I want to be self employed in the near future. It's appalling how a lot of people think we owe this and that to an employer, but in reality...said employer you were loyal to can just leave you high and dry one day.

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After being laid off yet again, I am convinced there is little job security these days. My boss had decided to hire an assistant with a real estate license as they decided they need someone who can do tasks for them that require a license. I can understand that, but I really wish they chose that route before hiring me. (Knowing I wasn't licensed) I've been working other employment around this job as I didn't want to jump from job to job. They were good to me and I would have hated leaving them high and dry. In the end, they laid me off suddenly, which is why I no longer believe in feeling indebted or obligated to an employer. My last position ended the assignment because they decided they wanted more experience. I'm really tired of wishy washy employers. Thank goodness I have another job with full time potential.

 

Yep.. that's the name of the game. The recent recession has been a real reality check about how the world works. The minute you are not needed by an employer is the minute you will be discarded like trash. No matter how hard you work or how many years you were with them. Also, its not always the people who work the hardest or do the best work that keep their jobs. Sometimes its the people who kiss the must butt or play politics the best.

 

The corporate world is disgusting and I'm not sure how much longer I can stay in it. You can't trust anyone and you are at the mercy of market swings and fickle managers. Plus, you have to do it all with a smile. I've been exploring ways to branch out on my own for a long time. I'm determined to find a way out that is financially feasible. Most work environments are toxic in one way or another.

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Yep.. that's the name of the game. The recent recession has been a real reality check about how the world works. The minute you are not needed by an employer is the minute you will be discarded like trash. No matter how hard you work or how many years you were with them. Also, its not always the people who work the hardest or do the best work that keep their jobs. Sometimes its the people who kiss the must butt or play politics the best.

 

The corporate world is disgusting and I'm not sure how much longer I can stay in it. You can't trust anyone and you are at the mercy of market swings and fickle managers. Plus, you have to do it all with a smile. I've been exploring ways to branch out on my own for a long time. I'm determined to find a way out that is financially feasible. Most work environments are toxic in one way or another.

 

I agree. I plan on becoming self employed eventually as well. I cannot put up with this much longer. My boss seemed genuine that he was sorry about it, but the way it happened irked me. He walked in right after meeting this other candidate, right in the middle of my shift and basically told me they just decided to move in another direction. I was off in an hour and I don't understand why he couldn't just tell me towards the end of my shift. I had to call my husband to get me when he was with relatives.

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i think it depends on what type of career you're in whether you have security and what company you work for. if you are just in a job (one that doesn't require a degree, for instance) you're not going to fare well. if you are with the government or a union position, you fare better. also, if you don't jump around but stay with a company for many years you build up seniority. you can't blame getting laid off/fired on the recession alone, but need to look at what you do or don't offer. as the original OP mentioned she doesn't have a license for her field... well, go get a license? you always have to improve your skills and do what you can to not be the one that is let go. i've never been laid off. perhaps lucky, or perhaps some people just know how to manage a career. who knows.

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i think it depends on what type of career you're in whether you have security and what company you work for. if you are just in a job (one that doesn't require a degree, for instance) you're not going to fare well. if you are with the government or a union position, you fare better. also, if you don't jump around but stay with a company for many years you build up seniority. you can't blame getting laid off/fired on the recession alone, but need to look at what you do or don't offer. as the original OP mentioned she doesn't have a license for her field... well, go get a license? you always have to improve your skills and do what you can to not be the one that is let go. i've never been laid off. perhaps lucky, or perhaps some people just know how to manage a career. who knows.

 

I don't need a license for my field of work. If I want to be a realtor and sell houses, yes I would get one. However, I decided not to go into real estate a few years ago and have been doing marketing for several years. They hired me to do MARKETING, not hold open houses or etc. If they wanted someone to be licensed, that should have been a job requirement. They made no mention of this and 5 months later they just so happened to want a realtor doing their marketing as they couldn't finance an entire position for marketing as they didn't have enough work. Until this past year, I've had several jobs and never once was let go. Both my previous bosses assured me it was nothing personal, just that their needs changed and that they would be happy to give me a nice recommendation. Even government jobs aren't what they used to be and they are extremely difficult to get hired in.

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I agree it can be tough, especially for us young people trying to break into the field. I have a pretty good paying job, but it was only a year long contract. I've been extended for another year recently but I'm just worried this year to year basis will be how it goes forever. It seems like business is changing. Back in the day you got a job and were set for life, now it seems like it's all short term contracts so they can get rid of you easier if it no longer suits them to keep you.

 

I also don't get paid sick leave, annual leave or redundancy like permanent employees. It's made up for with a much higher hourly rate though, so I try to never get sick! I guess for the company they don't mind paying extra if they know you'll be there every day slaving away without taking any time off or chucking sickies (I've only called in sick when I literally couldn't get out of bed).

 

I hate job searching and I'd prefer to never do it again!

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I agree it can be tough, especially for us young people trying to break into the field. I have a pretty good paying job, but it was only a year long contract. I've been extended for another year recently but I'm just worried this year to year basis will be how it goes forever. It seems like business is changing. Back in the day you got a job and were set for life, now it seems like it's all short term contracts so they can get rid of you easier if it no longer suits them to keep you.

 

I also don't get paid sick leave, annual leave or redundancy like permanent employees. It's made up for with a much higher hourly rate though, so I try to never get sick! I guess for the company they don't mind paying extra if they know you'll be there every day slaving away without taking any time off or chucking sickies (I've only called in sick when I literally couldn't get out of bed).

 

I hate job searching and I'd prefer to never do it again!

 

And these are the kind of job realities with which people are still supposed to drive an economy. You know...all the usual stuff. Settle down, raise kids, buy houses. It's tough to do any of this without job security.

Business is changing. Jobs for life at one time was the basis of a healthy economy. That was the social contract. Now it's a crapshoot. Casino economies may work well for high roller financialistas.....not so well for people who just want to keep a lid on the risk...and get on with their lives.

One reason why stress levels are now off the charts - compared to my parents' generation.

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I don't need a license for my field of work. If I want to be a realtor and sell houses, yes I would get one. However, I decided not to go into real estate a few years ago and have been doing marketing for several years. They hired me to do MARKETING, not hold open houses or etc. If they wanted someone to be licensed, that should have been a job requirement. They made no mention of this and 5 months later they just so happened to want a realtor doing their marketing as they couldn't finance an entire position for marketing as they didn't have enough work. Until this past year, I've had several jobs and never once was let go. Both my previous bosses assured me it was nothing personal, just that their needs changed and that they would be happy to give me a nice recommendation. Even government jobs aren't what they used to be and they are extremely difficult to get hired in.

 

Unfortunately and in this day, they can seek employees that they find the most qualified.

 

Perhaps in this case, it could have been someone just out of real estate school who wants the extra money and with more versatility because of having their license. Hence the real estate office demanding/getting more for their money.

 

If you would be at all interested in real estate, having your license is a good thing and for future as well.

 

Aside from selling real estate, also in banking/lending, or for future personal.

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Unfortunately and in this day, they can seek employees that they find the most qualified.

 

Perhaps in this case, it could have been someone just out of real estate school who wants the extra money and with more versatility because of having their license. Hence the real estate office demanding/getting more for their money.

 

If you would be at all interested in real estate, having your license is a good thing and for future as well.

 

Aside from selling real estate, also in banking/lending, or for future personal.

 

I think it was an established real estate agent, as the person before me was. I can understand that would make more financial sense for them as they can only offer part time hours and no benefits. At the time, I just needed a job, so I accepted it, but I couldn't afford part time long term.

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This has just lit a fire under my ass. I do the same exact thing, and my boss has been urging me to get my license, but I have been delaying.

 

I'm signing up for my real estate classes today.

 

Thank you.

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That door swings both ways....unfortunately....

 

Many employees have lousy morale, are unreliable, waste too much company time on personal endeavors and are always looking to where the grass is greener.....so employers just return the favor...

 

Its also a function of the way the economy is set up right now..The power is with the employers right now because there are more asses than seats..

 

Best advice I can give is that if you want to stay employed with one company for a long time, yuo need not be the most talented..You need to be reliable and honest....simple as that..

 

TFY

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Yep.. that's the name of the game. The recent recession has been a real reality check about how the world works. The minute you are not needed by an employer is the minute you will be discarded like trash. No matter how hard you work or how many years you were with them. Also, its not always the people who work the hardest or do the best work that keep their jobs. Sometimes its the people who kiss the must butt or play politics the best.

 

The corporate world is disgusting and I'm not sure how much longer I can stay in it. You can't trust anyone and you are at the mercy of market swings and fickle managers. Plus, you have to do it all with a smile. I've been exploring ways to branch out on my own for a long time. I'm determined to find a way out that is financially feasible. Most work environments are toxic in one way or another.

 

Mister Zen....You are correct my friend. THE CORPORATE WORLD IS DISGUSTING! Believe me I know....was in it for 30 years...and I decided it was time to get out! I started a small business (not what anyone expected) but It is MINE....I am the Boss...and IT FEELS GOOD!

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Yeah, for me it wouldn't make much financial sense for the investment for me or my bosses, which is why they probably decided just to go with an experienced agent. Not worth it for a part time position since I'm not pursing real estate and since I was planning to resign for my other job.

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