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Old 8th July 2014, 12:00 AM   #31
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I guess saying not wanting to get into about the rent/pay issue leads to 3 long post on the issue and nothing in regards to the second part of my post

Leigh as I said before and others have said, focus on your school, you are trying to do too much when it isn't even needed. You keep changing from one thing to the next when your only real focus should just be school.

Also, honestly, a lot of your posts could just go in a journal in your profile, as many of them seem more of you just talking of what you are doing and about your day to day events, not so much as a question on what to do.
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I guess saying not wanting to get into about the rent/pay issue leads to 3 long post on the issue and nothing in regards to the second part of my post

Leigh as I said before and others have said, focus on your school, you are trying to do too much when it isn't even needed. You keep changing from one thing to the next when your only real focus should just be school.

Also, honestly, a lot of your posts could just go in a journal in your profile, as many of them seem more of you just talking of what you are doing and about your day to day events, not so much as a question on what to do.

School is most important but it starts up again in September and at my age it is essential I get at least some part time or casual work before college commences.

I would always put school first though over any job; if the job started to impact my school work I would cut hours even if it meant losing out on the job.

It is key that I at least volunteer within my field plus study.

Any paid work is just a bonus but very needed at my age (savings are important).





I am looking for as many jobs as possible as that is what it takes to get one job for some people.
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I got work on Saturday night at an event company. I am currently registered with one other event company but the work is very infrequent.

Now I have two event companies I can get work through.
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Well there were hundreds of applicants all in suits for the sales and marketing job.

They are interviewing 300 applicants.

People interviewed largely had degrees and experience but my interviewer said she only cares about the personality, as the right personality and work ethic are all that are needed supposedly.

I am a bit quiet and reserved. I had an interview with an Irish woman who was really nice. We both got interviews at once.

I wasn't nervous. I either sell myself well or I don't. I find some days I do others I don't. Some interviews I have gotten through, others I haven't.

I don't think I'll get a call back as I don't think I sold myself enough. I mentioned that what dreamed in to applying was the fact that it's a relatively new company that seems so have come far in a short time span. That I really just like customer service and interacting with people.

I mentioned that my former employees said I was a bit different in a way that got them to take notice and hire me.



I don't feel it was my day today but I wasn't atrocious either.


They are narrowing it down to 50 people today. I will get a call by 3 pm of my interview was successful.
Narrowing it down to 50 people?! Sounds like a MLM scheme to me. Regular employers usually call the 10 most qualified individuals and then narrow it down from there.

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What is MLM?

I wasn't selected which was good. I wasn't keen on a sales or marketing job but I was trying to do the right thing and at least " apply for any job" that would have me.

I am relieved.

Happy to have work this Saturday. Money is money right? It is for anither event company.

I enjoy event work as it is infrequent but you end up with at least 1000 a year from sporadic once a month type of events.

The registers at events work are always easy, I can just turn up to a register I have not used before and use it right away, where as some companies have registers with a lot of products you have to learn/remember.

Still eager to hear back from the aged care trainee ship as compassion and quality time are the things that get me going where as sales are frankly the polar opposite of who I am and my natural personality type; I HATE trying to sell people products, I feel annoying and uncomfortable. But hey, it was good experience turning up to a serious interview with thousands of applicants all sitting around in suits.

Maybe the fact I didn't feel nervous is attributed to the fact I wasn't keen on the job anyways? Not passionate about it....
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So aside from the event work I am working Saturday from a new company too, a family has asked me to mind their kids, 5 and 8 (age groups I do well with).

They are paying me 20 an hour, 2 dollars above min wage.

It will be 3 or 4 nights a week, amounting to 300 a week.

SO far that and event work look to be the most secure options which are very manageable with full time study. 3 or 4 afternoons a week sounds sensible as far as studies go.







What do I do if I start minding children and a better offer comes along? I want to commit to something then stick it out so I have staying power in a job.




At this stage, the only better offer than the 3 or 4 afternoons a week would be the aged care paid traineeships as it pertains to me college education and will likely get me a job as soon as a graduate opposed to just minding children for a couple of years until I graduate.

I don't like hospitality work as much as simply minding children and cooking dinner for the family, providing it is a nice and friendly family.
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MLM = multi level marketing.
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MLM = multi level marketing.


I think that is what they do, it is a scheme where once you start, if you are good at the job you can move up very quickly to several different levels.

There are 5 levels and each level has a comprehensive guide.

Ugh. So not my thing. I hate the notion of bothering consumers it is just not my thing at all but I thought I would still apply for any job I felt capable of doing just in case an opportunity presented itself.

They do sell for charities to raise money so that was a selling point for me and the only thing about the job description that appealed to me.

My great uncle was an award winning salesman who met the Queen because he was so generous in raising money for charity, my father is his carer now.

I guess some people are born with it (the ability to be a sales person) and some are not, like me
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I think that is what they do, it is a scheme where once you start, if you are good at the job you can move up very quickly to several different levels.

There are 5 levels and each level has a comprehensive guide.

Ugh. So not my thing. I hate the notion of bothering consumers it is just not my thing at all but I thought I would still apply for any job I felt capable of doing just in case an opportunity presented itself.

They do sell for charities to raise money so that was a selling point for me and the only thing about the job description that appealed to me.

My great uncle was an award winning salesman who met the Queen because he was so generous in raising money for charity, my father is his carer now.

I guess some people are born with it (the ability to be a sales person) and some are not, like me
That sounds horrible. I would stay away from it
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I think that is what they do, it is a scheme where once you start, if you are good at the job you can move up very quickly to several different levels.

There are 5 levels and each level has a comprehensive guide.

Ugh. So not my thing. I hate the notion of bothering consumers it is just not my thing at all but I thought I would still apply for any job I felt capable of doing just in case an opportunity presented itself.

They do sell for charities to raise money so that was a selling point for me and the only thing about the job description that appealed to me.

My great uncle was an award winning salesman who met the Queen because he was so generous in raising money for charity, my father is his carer now.

I guess some people are born with it (the ability to be a sales person) and some are not, like me
Not only that, but those are almost always commission only. They advertise high pay, no experience needed and etc. Be wary of those. Usually they make you attend some sort of presentation. Also if they ask you for any money up front for anything...don't do it. Farmers is well known for trying to find people on commission only and you have to pay for your license and they will not reimburse you unless you're actually making sales. Remember, jobs pay you, you don't pay them.
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Not only that, but those are almost always commission only. They advertise high pay, no experience needed and etc. Be wary of those. Usually they make you attend some sort of presentation. Also if they ask you for any money up front for anything...don't do it. Farmers is well known for trying to find people on commission only and you have to pay for your license and they will not reimburse you unless you're actually making sales. Remember, jobs pay you, you don't pay them.
I'm not sure if it was commission only.

I know a well known travel centre I regularly apply for gives you a base rate PLUS commission on top of your wage.

I went along to the sales and marketing job interview because there were so many applicants and the fact there were many people waiting in business attire made the job and the company look respectable enough.

I've always disliked the idea of sales as I prefer more rewarding endeavours such as volunteering and the aged care traineeship.

Sales to me seems like a good fit for people that are all about money and that like the incentive of getting rich fast with the array of schemes I am sure are available.

I didn't even care an iota when I didn't get the call back to make it to the next round. Usually I get upset when I miss out on jobs.

Seriously thought, I could never go to work and not know if I'm going to get paid unless I make a lot of sales.
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Also try to search the company online before going to interviews at places which you are not familiar with. If it is a MLM scheme, it can easily be found out. It can save you time and any possible wasted efforts.
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I have decided to quit the aggressive search for work and instead focus on my future. I have event work every month, mum buys my luxury hair and skin products and I live very comfortably as is. And lets face it, after four years looking for hospitality and retail based jobs, I really must not have the knack for them since I cannot easily get them like most Uni students seem to......

For starters, I have decided to change my youth work diploma to aged care; it is pretty much guaranteed you will get a job if you look hard enough. It is the fasted growing job sector in Australia and I live in an area with a lot of aging population.

Within this a year I can easily get a proper professional job in an industry (aged care) that also pertains to my degree. In the next one year I can get a paid job in the aged care industry if I do a quick diploma course in aged care.

At my age of 28, I feel it is more important to focus on a professional, career job ASAP and spend a few months studying towards it, opposed to getting retail or hospitability jobs.

A diploma in aged care is the quickest way for me to have a professional job that is growing industry with plenty of jobs available. It seems a lot more promising than aimlessly looking or café, restaurant, bar or retail work!

It will be hard doing it on the side of my degree but if I studied on weekends and one hour 4 days a week, I could get the aged care diploma in 6 months.

It is a go at your own pace diploma that can be done in 6 months.

I will also start my degree in community development in September and also start volunteer work on the 27th of August as a phone crisis counsellor, it is a nationally accredited, 2500 dollar training program they give to you for 600.

I think the best thing for me is to finish the rest of my bachelors (in 2.5 years time), get volunteer experience in the field, and do my aged care diploma on the side INSTEAD Of getting a crappy student job.

This way, everything I put effort into is all tied in nicely; aged care is relevant to my community development degree as the elderly are one of the target groups my bachelors degree focuses on. And phone crisis counselling is also considered relevant work experience for my bachelors degree.








I may be offered a job tomorrow, part time only for 20 hours a week at 20 an hour, which is the same salary as aged care workers get here. It is taking care of two children aged 5 and 8 after school hours, which I consider relevant work experience as my degree is about working with all members of the community.






If I start my aged care certificate NOW, I can work really hard and get a lot of it out of the way by September, when my degree starts up again.....





If I don't get the job tomorrow I am going to just stop my job search, stick with event work that comes every so often, maybe join another event company or two and just focus on my studies. Event work is infrequent but it comes in bouts, you can earn thousands in busy periods, working both Fri and Saturdays for a month, only to not get work for months at a time.
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My friend talked to me about a scheme he is involved with. You have to pay 300 to join.

It is a travel based company where they price match and offer the cheapest travel possible.

You get commission from telling friends about it and getting them to join, and you make less money, I think 200 per person who buys the travel package through you. Or something.

I am really not interested though. Screw paying 300 to join a company. I feel bad I feigned interest as my friend is right into it!

I will just direct people his way I think to try and help him get members to join.

My heart lies with helping people within the community so I want to just focus on that, on a path that will most likely result in employment (relevant volunteer work, a short diploma, my degree etc)

At my age is too late to do the prestigious degrees I once assumed I would go into and have the marks for. Best to work towards an area I love and get good at it one day. I can always strive to move up to management within the field I love which is low paid.

Honestly though, I get so much given to me from my mum (all skin products, hair care, etc) that I only need an 18 dollar an hour aged care job, full time, and I will be easily able to save towards my future, given I am welcome at home for as long as needed.

Plus everyone has commented that I would be good at aged care; my friends and family and people who first meet me have all commented that I am well suited.




Wish me luck. I am going to need it, but there is light at he end of the tunnel, degrees take years but diplomas do not.
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Plus everyone has commented that I would be good at aged care; my friends and family and people who first meet me have all commented that I am well suited.
I do wish you luck, but I am sincerely concerned about your suitability to care for aged people. I took care of my mom at home at the end of her life. I know what it entails.

I also hired people to help me. You would not have made it a day. I'm not saying that to be mean, it's just the truth.

If you have a huge emotional reaction to a difficult toddler, I can only imagine how you'll deal with a grown up that may act that way.
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