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Old 4th December 2012, 7:40 PM   #61
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These are my hopes and dreams, in terms of what "social life" and "spare time" I hope to enjoy during the following years, when I am working hard towards a future...



- study all day but have some evenings off to watch documentaries with Andrew and the dogs for hald hour - an hour. Two nights a week doing this would be ideal, but I would be happy with one.

- go for a run at night 5 nights a week, for 30 mins, and do some ab work and lunges and toning work 3 days a week for only 20 minutes.

- Study on weekends, but take the textbooks with me to the beach with us, and get to read the text on the beach, rather than inside. Have a short break to go for a swim or sunbake/nap/read a mag (not that I would feel like doing more reading...)

Essentially, I will study all day whenever I am not working, have one or two evenings off to relax, and study a little less on weekends, and go for a long walk or two on the beach weekends.

I am NOT doing a demanding degree: it involves a prescribed amount of reading we are set every week, and there are only 3 exams in like 2 years. It is ALL essay writing and reading.

My good friend is doing the same degree and is going to do her masters in the SAME thing I plan to do....

She says she gets time to have a life, that it is stress full at times, but NOT life consuming
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Old 4th December 2012, 8:26 PM   #62
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Here are some strategies to save cash, and buy time. Please tell me what you think:

- I do not have to work out long hours to be thin; I can achieve a pretty good body without heaps of exercise.
Whats more, I will be living with Andrew mostly, and will walk to and from Uni to save petrol, and therefore only have to do 20 minutes additional running (4 days a week) given I will be walking most days.

- I do not live at home often enough to warrant paying my parents heaps for utitilies: 50 dollars per week is pretty much the most I would even use at home.

- I have already learnt to buy the CHEAPEST food brands, literally the cheapest you can get, and still make tasty and healthy meals. You save A LOT of money buying no brand names.

- I will make meals days in advance and put them in plastic/cheap lunch boxes so can eat healthily/ save time in prparing food daily.

- I will live mostly at Andrews on Uni days, and will walk to and from Uni (which will be most of my cardio for the day, meaning I only have to go for a short, 20 min power run): therefore, saving a LOT of petrol money


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Living expenses and the ability to save for overseas travel

Living on the cheapest food, walking to and from uni to barly use my car, not going out and partying often, and not paying much towards my living, will enable me to even save for a short overseas trip each year.

I get 200 AUD from the government per week as a student, plus working 30 hours for about 19 dollars per hour would yield 570 dollars per week.

I can live comfortably off 200 dollars per week, although I will only end up saving 100 per week, due to my lifestyle expenses:

- every 2 months I would need to spend 30 dollars on mineral powder ( the ONLY make up I use besides mascara).

-19 dollars every 2 months on mascara

- I also wax my eyebrows every 2 weeks, which costs 17 dollars.

- TWICE a year, I spend about 400 on hair extensions, because 50% of my hair is still missing after my anorexia, and therefore my hair is VERY thin like that of a 5 year old child, and I feel better with my old hair.
I have very strong facial features, which look unattractive with baby fine hair. I feel 100% more feminine when I balance out my long, crooked nose, with thicker hair.

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Even with the mascara, mineral powder, once every two week eyebrow waxing, AND hair extensions twice a year, I will be able to save every week.

Even saving 100 dollars every week, will allow me to travel overseas every year, for the 2 months we have off at he end of Uni.
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Old 5th December 2012, 11:55 AM   #63
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I think you should just make worst-case-scenario plans (your top section) and then go for it. Start your course, keep applying for jobs in the meantime. You're stuck in a rut of overanalysing here, Leigh. You've probably posted 10,000 words (that's a whole thesis, y'know? ) about what you plan to do, but how much of it have you actually done? Have you enrolled for the first university semester of 2013?

I personally don't think you NEED to be able to work and study full-time as an Australian citizen, and especially not one whose parents are paying her rent. I could live easily on what your government is giving you alone, not to mention the additional rent that you get from your parents. Just focus on school and keep applying for part time jobs, but for the love of God start your degree already.
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Old 5th December 2012, 1:02 PM   #64
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I always liked many subjects, so it was hard as hell to decide. I'm just 24 years old, so maybe not such a long way to decide, but for me it was a very different story.

I already had picked my path to be along the lines of trading, but it took me around 2 years at university to realize that I had enough theory. Then I took my knowledge to practical use and until now, I had no regrets about it. Before that, I had a few part time jobs. All kinds of part time jobs ... I even worked at a graveyard, which helped me a lot to finance my car.

Well, I hope a different kind of story could be nice as well. It sure isn't wrong to take some time to decide what to do. As well, it is nothing unusual to change the career to a different direction, even at later years. I guess passions and interests may change over time.
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Old 6th December 2012, 5:05 AM   #65
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I think you should just make worst-case-scenario plans (your top section) and then go for it. Start your course, keep applying for jobs in the meantime. You're stuck in a rut of overanalysing here, Leigh. You've probably posted 10,000 words (that's a whole thesis, y'know? ) about what you plan to do, but how much of it have you actually done? Have you enrolled for the first university semester of 2013?

I personally don't think you NEED to be able to work and study full-time as an Australian citizen, and especially not one whose parents are paying her rent. I could live easily on what your government is giving you alone, not to mention the additional rent that you get from your parents. Just focus on school and keep applying for part time jobs, but for the love of God start your degree already.

I have good news: I just completed the onliny training for the Subway job. I will go in to start work there soon... It is a few minute walk from my flat too.
I gave the manager the wrong email address (my bad handwriting), so I rang up, and there is still a job going for me.

In regards to my life plan, I am due to start next year, early Feb.
My best female friend is doing it, and she assures me that I can handle it; it is not a life consuming degree, but often leads to jobs; with a masters, there are many well paid jobs to be had, too.

I do not HAVE to work full time, so I won't....But I DO want to work about 30 hours as week.
Working that often, I can look after myself, and not rely on my parents; sure, I get to live in their flat, but I could pay my parents for all the electricity and gas I use, pay for my own petrol, and look after myself, with enough money for one shortish overseas holiday every YEAR of my degree.


So, it will feel great just not asking my parents for any money (not that I really do often as it is).
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Old 6th December 2012, 7:07 AM   #66
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Happy for you, Leigh! Glad you've gotten started on the path to your future. It's never easy, and I always get omfgworried about mine too, but we can't let ourselves get stuck by analysis paralysis. Good luck.
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Old 7th December 2012, 12:27 AM   #67
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Leigh I envy you. I've posted similar dilemma about not being sure career wise and didn't get anywhere near this much pages/ answers.
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Old 7th December 2012, 2:08 AM   #68
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Sugarkane, what is up with your career, I did not look at your thread?

I will have a look when I get to a good computer (this one barly works, I only come on here briefely to check my own threads, and the comp often dies so I try to be quick with that!)

At least you HAVE a job!

I can forsee a great lifestyle for myself, even as a student who works (I will get time to enjoy life, work out, spend time with dogs and boyfriend, and save for overseas trips)

However, you HAVE the job, so your doing better than me in terms of career!

Lets hope things work out for the both of us!
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Old 7th December 2012, 5:12 AM   #69
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Hi Leigh, don't know if you got my message. Just trying to figure out what to do. Typical problem of having too many options. I applied through VTAC here for uni but got screwed over. And missed out. I tried phoning VTAC and have left them an email.
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Hi Leigh, don't know if you got my message. Just trying to figure out what to do. Typical problem of having too many options. I applied through VTAC here for uni but got screwed over. And missed out. I tried phoning VTAC and have left them an email.

I am in a diff state to you; we apply through UAC, the website. It is a quick and easy process.

What options are you considereing? I considered first: food science or exercise science, dietetics (hardest to get into), social science (sociology) or teaching.

This was my thought process that determined what I wanted to spend the next few years studying:

I just weighed up my options. I want to work part time in order to travel once a year overseas; which is possible since I do not pay rent and am great at saving when I try.

Therefore, I do not want to do the most difficult degree I CAN do, because my life would be utterly miserable. I want to make a committment and consistently work hard, but I do not want a degree that will make me miserable and consume all my free time. I only ask for meal breaks, and half hour 5 days a week to work out, plus about 20 hrs a week to work part time.

And a walk on the beach on the weekend would be nice, just one of the days. I will still study every day, but would like the rare hangover day where I can have the entire day off studying; just once every two months or so.
I sought out a degree that has many options (depending on your major) and plenty of jobs to be had: that is easy to find work with, that will just pay the bills.

I wanted a degree where I just had to do reading, and then write essays.
That was stressfull, but allowed me to enjoy life, and did nto fill me with dread.

I am of average intelligence in most areas, therefore a super hard degree would just make me miserable, and is not worth it to me.
I am sure you can think of how you want to live your life, what your considered to give up/how hard your prepared to work, among other determining factors.







I did not want to have to spend all my waking horus memorizing complez theories and applying them to math and sciences based problems all day every day.
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Old 10th December 2012, 3:47 PM   #71
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Leigh.....are you sure you "can't" do certain things? Just as an example, when I was in university almost 20 years ago, I never thought I would be able to do accounting, because there's some math involved. When I actually had to do it for a program I was in, accounting came naturally to me. I am studying social work now, and I get pretty much all A's in that, but if I were to study what I was really good at academically, I would be studying business and accounting, but I have no interest in it. Social work is a bit more challenging to me academically and otherwise, but I had gone for years thinking accounting was something I couldn't do, but it came really easy for me. Also, I had never thought I'd be "any good" at research, but I had to do a research course for my social work program this past semester. I still don't know how I did overall b/c grades are not out yet, but before I wrote my last paper my average was 93%. So I did much better in a class than I thought I would, that I didn't think I would be any good at, but my prof suggested I continue my research project for later publication. (I'm just proud of that. I never had much confidence in myself academically and I took a long time in life to figure out what I wanted to do. Probably why I am drawn to this thread).

How long has it been since you've done math? I failed math in high school, but did a little better in university. If I tried it now, I don't know if I'd ace it, but I think I'd pass it. How you did academically in the past does not mean you "can't" do it now. I flunked out of university years ago...but I am now getting mosty A's, have been on the Dean's List, and am applying for grad school for next September. I am also looking into Law, which is very demanding academically. As another example, one of my sociology instructors used to say that she was a 'mediocre' student in high school, but did really well in university and went on to get her master's in sociology (she gave us tests too, so it's not necessarily all essays in sociology!). My point is, you might think you "can't" do something, but later on, you might "get" it.

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Leigh, I said this before, but I'll say it again:

Choose your degree primarily based on what your options after it are, not what the degree itself involves (time needed for it, type of study required). Do what you need to do to get the sort of WORK you want. I know you mentioned it in your list, but there is something like 9 reasons for your choice based on your quality of life while doing your degree, and 1 reason based on your work options after. It should be the other way around.
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Old 13th December 2012, 10:14 PM   #73
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Nanuk - I never once applied myself during high school; I did not once try hard at any subject. Despite the fact that I could have been a very good student had I actually tried. I had to many issues and no motivation to give a damn about anything when I was in high school.

Hence why I did a once year course before I enrolled in Uni; I dropped out of high school, an d needed that extra year to GET into Uni at all.

I have done science for one year of my adult life; BASIC science. With no math, pretty much.

I do not have even high school level math behind me. For me to pass even the most basic math course at a university level, I would need at least ONE YEARS tuition in math before I even were to START the degree.

However, because there are also a lot of degrees that DO NOT involve math, degrees I happen to fancy, I see no reason to do math; what's more, I cannot afford the tutoring needed for the math (and no it is NOT free, or skin to the essay structuring classes you get for free as part of the "extra help" novelties)

If I was hell bent on becoming a nutitionist or getting a bachelor of science degree, I would absolutely do what it took in order to attain it (which would mean: finding a job to afford math tuition for one year before starting the degree)

The important thing is, I am not that drawn to any one degree or job ,.to the extent that I am willing to suffer a lot to get it; you know, I am only willing to handle the usual stressors of studying.. tackling math when I have NO background in it, seeing as I neve ronce paid attention in high school, would be a HUGE feet to conquer.

Right now, I listed as my options: 1. social sciences, 2. primary school teaching, and 3. bachelor of social work.
Primary school teaching would only involve basic level math, which I would postpone, as I cannot afford the tuition I need in order to pass the most basic math.

I would be happy to start as a social worker (which can be attained through social sicences AND obviosuly the bach of social work..)

I will be pushing to do my masters in something like HR management; I believe business needs a friendly touch, from a person like myself...
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Leigh, I said this before, but I'll say it again:

Choose your degree primarily based on what your options after it are, not what the degree itself involves (time needed for it, type of study required). Do what you need to do to get the sort of WORK you want. I know you mentioned it in your list, but there is something like 9 reasons for your choice based on your quality of life while doing your degree, and 1 reason based on your work options after. It should be the other way around.

As I said above, I am not that desperate to get a degree that involves math in it. I equally want to be a social worker, or in HR management (neither involve math)

I do not have a handle on the most basic math, due to not paying any attention in hish school, then dropping out, and only enrolling back to do a quick year of basic science and linguistics.

Doing a degree with math in it would involve a year or more of math tuition before I started a degree, and I would need a job in order to afford the tuition (and I cannot even find a basic cleaning job ANYWHERE)

And of course I consider the quality of life! I am not pushing myself to do the hardest degree I CAN do, just to get a better paying job; four years of intense minsery is not WORTH the flipping degree!

INstead, I just want a professional job, which I work hard for, but do not have to cry daily about. SOmething like social sciences, teaching, or social work would be hard yet not life consuming.
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So how's your Christmas job that you said you'd be working at now going? Did that happen? If so, what is the work? What is your workday like, and how are you doing at dealing with your responsibilities there? If it didn't happen - why?
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