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Old 24th January 2011, 7:56 PM   #31
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Well, thing is, just because you have done well in your current position does not necessarily mean you "DESERVE" the promotion to a management position. The question for your hiring supervisor isn't whether you deserve an A+ or a gold star or even a raise for your previous work, but whether you are qualified for a different, future management position.

Anne gave you some very good insight about how to demonstrate that you're qualified to enter management:
I think I deserve it, but I have no management experience, so there could be someone else who comes in who deserves it more then me. They may be more qualified, so I will understand that. She won't hire me because I deserve it, I realize that.

Yeah, I like Anne's questions, I suspect she will ask me a lot of those, so I am preparing. I have some experience managing/supervising the volunteers who work in our unit, so I will use some examples of my work with them during the interview.
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Old 24th January 2011, 8:41 PM   #32
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I think I deserve it, but I have no management experience, so there could be someone else who comes in who deserves it more then me. They may be more qualified, so I will understand that. She won't hire me because I deserve it, I realize that.
Do you understand the difference between deserving and being qualified for the position? I'm a little concerned that you don't. No one deserves a job or promotion. They're qualified for it. To say you deserve the promotion has an air of entitlement that has no place in a manager's mind.

Now, everyone has to start somewhere to get experience, including managers. Just because you've never been a manager doesn't mean you don't have the qualifications if you can demonstrate that you can manage your unit...

So explain to them why you'd be a good manager. In addition to reminding them of your own work history and knowledge of the job responsibilities of those you'll be managing, you'll want to provide examples of your operational knowledge, how you've demonstrated stellar communication skills with colleagues, how you've resolved conflicts amongst your peers, how you've assisted with training colleagues, how you've demonstrated initiative and attention to detail, how you've been able to pick up a dropped ball and run with it, and most importantly, the qualities that make you an excellent leader.

Essentially, you need to dress and act the part of the job you want, not the one you already have, and not just on interview day.
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Old 24th January 2011, 9:10 PM   #33
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Do you understand the difference between deserving and being qualified for the position? I'm a little concerned that you don't. No one deserves a job or promotion. They're qualified for it. To say you deserve the promotion has an air of entitlement that has no place in a manager's mind.
I understand the difference. I know people get hired because they are qualified for the job, not because they deserve it. I could say I deserve a CEO position, but I am not qualified, therefore they wouldn't hire me. I'm not trying to act entitled, I guess I'm just anxious to move up.

Another clinical manager position opened up in another department, I'm debating on whether or not to apply for it. I don't want to give my supervisor the impression that if she doesn't hire me for the manager position, that I am going to take off on her. Unfortunately I will need to apply for the position before I probably hear back about this position I'm interviewing for in my unit. My supervisor will DEF be contacted, so I will need to tell her I am applying for another manager position. I'm thinking that I will probably need to just let this other position go, because it would jeapordize the one I am up for in my unit. What does everyone think?
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Old 24th January 2011, 9:18 PM   #34
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Absolutely apply for that other position as well! The threat of losing a good employee to another unit internally will make her reevaluate whether she wants to promote you, and if not, your got another shot!

It'll only make them take you more seriously.
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Old 25th January 2011, 10:59 AM   #35
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Absolutely apply for that other position as well! The threat of losing a good employee to another unit internally will make her reevaluate whether she wants to promote you, and if not, your got another shot!

It'll only make them take you more seriously.
Thanks, I am going to apply for it. I had actually spoken to my supervisor about another clinical manager position with the youth program (I decided not to apply for it though, since I like working with adults), and that's when she told me she thought I was a canidate and that they would be developing a clinical manager position in our unit, but it hadn't come out yet. Then a week later it came out so I applied for it. So she is aware that if I don't get this position, then I will be applying for other management positions. She understands that I want to move on, and that I kind of feel restricted in what I can do with my current position.
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Old 25th January 2011, 4:07 PM   #36
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I got an interview on Thursday for the clinical manager position in the other unit! YAY!
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Old 25th January 2011, 5:56 PM   #37
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Old 27th January 2011, 2:03 PM   #38
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My interview went well today, the qeustions weren't all that hard that were asked and I felt that I had a good vibe with the interviewer. I was open and honest and I think it went well. I am up against several other people so we will see what happens!
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Old 19th February 2011, 7:33 AM   #39
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you're the most qualified candidate, and have proven to them how badly you want the position.
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