eattherichh Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 You know, you hear so many stories of rich folks donating billions to charities, I think it's bull. I've been poor all my life with just enough funds to meet fundamental requirements and never received anything from charities. Where do all the billions of dollars go? Education? Schools? Health? Hospitals? Sounds to me it is just the rich paying their taxes in different way. The governments get the cash along with the real poor, the bum with no life in that shabby apartment or that family of four within the rented house that's nearly crumbling with no vehicle never get any assist from rich strangers to get off their feet and as a result struggle all of the time make ends meet. They can't get a job since they do not have an education. They can't get an education because it takes funds. They don't have money since they don't have job. It is a vicious cycle. Here in Canada, I only get $10,000 a year compared to the average Joe who gets $30,000 a year and rich men and women who get more than $100,000 a year. The disparity is too excellent. It wouldn't hurt the rich guy making $100,000 a year to give $40,000 to four of the folks making $10,000 a year now would it? The reality is the poor want at least $20,000 a year to make it. The poor have to a method to begin enjoying life too. If the poor had a lot more they would make very good placements with their cash, get an education, get a job and join the middle class. Instead you got rich individuals with so much funds they don't know what to do with it, except for expanding their empire of wealth and get richer and richer. It's soo a lot less difficult for rich person to get richer when genuinely a greater way would be for the poor people to have an straightforward way to make a decent quantity. The difficulty with our society is that to be able to make money you have to invest cash. When there's no dollars to start with, and worse, if you do not have an education since your family was too poor to maintain you happy in school forcing you to drop out, as in my case, then you've got a difficulty beginning out. It shouldn't be that way. There needs to be a method to make education totally free but it's not totally free. Education costs dollars. Governments would rather use the rich people's not so challenging earned funds to create a stronger military, invest in business that are already making a decent amount and paying health care individuals (Doctors are the highest paid folks in the world and yet here we are giving to lots of money for merely prescribing medications). Here in Canada we have the Sun card which pays all medical expenses. It takes yet another comparable which need to pay our education. That would truly aid men and women. Since once men and women have an education, then it's so a lot less difficult come across a job. Yet governments don't do that. It is filled old wealthy men and women who do not like the poor, complain simply because the they have pay taxes to them. They only care about their oil and gas costs, and also the stock market...pathetic. Oil and gas costs...lol...Growing up my family never had a car and even nowadays I still do not have a vehicle. I laugh when they woory about that. C'mon, we ought to be more worried about the rising FOOD costs. Paying an average of $3.50 for a one person meal is just too pricey. Unless you eat ramon noodles, the rest of the food prices are so high. Some say, well, eat mac and cheese, it takes milk and butter too, hot dogs takes buns, so when you add up the costs of food it is just too high-priced. Rich people still do not get it. Never will. Actually I do not believe anybody need to earn much more than $100,000 dollars a year. Anything far more needs to be redistributed to the poor. It sickens me to hear rich individuals complain about at that suggestion. In short, I'd just like everyone to know... [sIZE=4][color=#0000FF]I HATE THE RICH!!!!!!!!!!!![/COLOR][/sIZE] Link to post Share on other sites
Baby Gorilla Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 What is stopping you from making more money? The problem with just giving people money, is when people don't have to work for what they receive, people get lazy, and unproductive. It is mindsets like this that are leading to the fall of western civilization. Country's where people are literally dying to work such as Brazil and China have economy's that are literally exploding. China NEEDS 25 million NEW jobs filled each year, and can't keep up. Get off your ass and start being productive. Link to post Share on other sites
jean-luc sisko Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 there are always disparities in life. Link to post Share on other sites
Nightsky Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Money is the root of all evil. Life is unfair. Personally, connecting with people brings me a lot of joy. Nothing helps me connect more then helping others. People shouldn’t go with out proper nutrition or shelter just because they are poor. Link to post Share on other sites
greengoddess Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 hmmm and yet you have a computer? Link to post Share on other sites
skydiveaddict Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 What makes you feel entitled to someone else's property? Rich or not? Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I don't hate or begrudge the rich. I believe wealthy people would opt to give to other things than traditional charities if there were some way for them to see their money in action. But some people just make it--make a lot and then just clear their consciences by making donations. If I had to begrudge anything it would be the dark sides of capitalism where people reap extraordinary wealth while keeping their work forces on the edge of indentured servitude. I also hate--HATE--commercialism and it's disgusting effect on journalism and the media. I'm very disappointed that early pioneers of the Internet didn't try to keep commercialism out but instead have embraced it with grave consequence on the development of the net and society. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I hardly consider a person who earns $100,000 to be "rich." I'm certainly not going to give any of my hard earned money to some random dude who's only "getting" (interesting choice of words there...) $10,000 just because he thinks the disparity is unfair. Link to post Share on other sites
shadowofman Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I also dislike the rich. For all the bitching and moaning about the government being responsible for creating jobs, people should start to realize that it is the rich's responsibility. If our unemployment rate is too high, it is because the people that can afford to create jobs are unconcerned and selfish. I make an arbitrary distinction between rich and poor (I don't believe in a middle class) at $40,000 a year in America. That is an equal share of the GDP based on our population. It is also more than adequate to live comfortably. Of course debt must be factored into rich/poor classification. If you make $100,000 but are in enough debt, then you are effectively poor. Link to post Share on other sites
threebyfate Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I dislike rich or poor who don't have a clue what they're talking about. Link to post Share on other sites
OceanGirl Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I dislike rich or poor who don't have a clue what they're talking about. LOL nice... Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Yes, yes, I agree. There shouldn't be rich, there shouldn't be poor, everyone should be equal, and there is no reason why people wouldn't live in abundance. Link to post Share on other sites
Crusoe Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 hmmm and yet you have a computer? And the time to use it. When I was "poor" I never had spare time, if I wasn't sleeping I was working. I was happy too, for I had the opportunity to work. "What's that boss, you want me to shovel that sh*t out of the sewer for £5. Yeah, I'll do that, I whistle a f*cking tune for you too. It's £5 I wouldn't have if I sat on my arse doing nothing. Thanks for the opportunity." The real poor don't have that opportunity, they spend their day wondering where the next meal is coming from. Someone earning 10k a year is rich to them. I wonder if they spend their day hoping someone will sell their laptop and give them the proceeds. I wonder if they hate them for not doing so. Link to post Share on other sites
january2011 Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 If the poor had a lot more they would make very good placements with their cash, get an education, get a job and join the middle class. In the UK, there are some families who receive more in benefits than some who are employed. There are even people who are able-bodied who have been receiving benefits all their adult lives and have not worked a single day, unless it's cash-in-hand/under-the-counter work. In my experience, there are always opportunities for people who are motivated and not afraid of hard work. Even without an education, through diligence and going for every opportunity available, you can work your way up in a company. Therefore, I'm sorry but I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who don't try to help themselves and expect other people to give them freebies. Life is hard and sitting back expecting other people to do your work for you and then hand over the proceeds is a luxury very few people can afford, least of all those who are unlucky enough to be born at the bottom rung of the ladder. There are people who can't even hope to earn USD10K a year, people who have to walk miles every day under harsh conditions just to get water and food for their families. There are people who work three or four jobs and scrimp and save just to have enough money so that their kids can have a college education. Since you have access to a computer and the internet, are articulate and can write coherently, which suggests a decent education, I'm surprised that you are not earning more and/or have better prospects. With your one post, interesting avatar and username as well as the topic of this thread, it suggests to me that this account is a sock puppet whose only purpose is to incite some kind of flame war. This is probably the longest reply I've written so far on this site, so kudos to you. It will be interesting to see if you stick around and continue along the same vein. Link to post Share on other sites
stillafool Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I don't understand how these groups want to give to charity and instead of just giving them all the money, they have to have a party to give. Why don't they forget about the damn party and donate that money as well to charity? Why do they have to have something for them? They only give for a write off anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I dislike rich or poor who don't have a clue what they're talking about. Ding ding ding. This ^. Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Money is the root of all evil. Incorrect. THE LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil. Life is unfair. no it isn't. Life is Life. What people do in Life can seem unfair to us, but it's a question of perception. Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Look what the governments and people who care can do for the people. Here in Idonesia they built a whole village with new homes for people that had lost everything in an earthquake: It didn't even take much resources and it changed the life of these people who couldn't do this by themselves. Yet in Haiti people are still living in tents and getting cholera. Link to post Share on other sites
jean-luc sisko Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think it's infantile minds who care about fairness. Why should it matter if some are richer than others are? Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I think it's infantile minds who care about fairness. Why should it matter if some are richer than others are? Because people are equal and no one is better than the other, therefore all should receive the same treatment and have the same amenities. The only thing people should be concerned with should be getting old and sick. And medical care should be free for all. Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) Btw, The way of making distinctions is so ingrained in this country, that we were laughing with my son about a train they had to go from a small town to the Grand Canyon. A ride that lasted a couple hours. They had: Coach Class, First Class, Observation Dome, and Luxury Parlor Class. Like in an airplane. They couldn't even make a simple "train" that goes for two hours with regular seats for everybody. They just had to divide the train in crappy, less crappy, and wonderful expensive. How much money do you have? how much are you willing to pay? and how is your trip going to be like? Ha? Edited January 9, 2011 by Ariadne Link to post Share on other sites
jean-luc sisko Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 Because people are equal and no one is better than the other, therefore all should receive the same treatment and have the same amenities. The only thing people should be concerned with should be getting old and sick. And medical care should be free for all. So what about people who are better looking, or who are more athletic, or taller? Fairness is a childish end, not everything in life is always equal and fair. Link to post Share on other sites
TaraMaiden Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 jean-Luc, I would suggest you start your own thread, instead of threadjacking this one. That way, it will be your thread that gets closed for pointless banter, (like your other one was) not somebody else's. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Ariadne Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 So what about people who are better looking, or who are more athletic, or taller? Fairness is a childish end, not everything in life is always equal and fair. God is an artist and makes everything unique and beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites
allina Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 I can't believe people bothered responding to this troll. Look at the user name and info and ignore the troll Link to post Share on other sites
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