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Old 14th December 2009, 1:38 PM   #31
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You have a Master degree????

How long do you have to go to University to get a Master in the US...
Not sure if it's the same as in Canada.
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Old 14th December 2009, 1:47 PM   #32
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How long do you have to go to University to get a Master in the US...
Not sure if it's the same as in Canada.
It depends on the exact degree; some Masters are 40-units (two years) and some are 60-units (three years).
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Old 14th December 2009, 1:47 PM   #33
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You have a Master degree????

How long do you have to go to University to get a Master in the US...
Not sure if it's the same as in Canada.
Yeah, I have a Masters degree.

It really depends on how many credits the program is and how many classes you take at one time (if you go full time or part time). I went full time, my program was pretty long (60 credits). It depends on what you get your Masters in I think. I got done in 2 1/2 years because I wanted to get a job right away. Those who already had a full time job generally went part time so it took them longer.

So I guess the answer is, it depends...
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My-my.. your Master degree is shorter than a College diploma here.. (social work in college here is 3 years full time).. is very far from being considered a Master's degree..

A Master degree here.. (like my daughter) is 6 years university full time.. + she had to go to Philippines 6 months (research) for her thesis..

Definitely not the same..
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Old 14th December 2009, 2:11 PM   #35
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My-my.. your Master degree is shorter than a College diploma here.. (social work in college here is 3 years full time).. is very far from being considered a Master's degree..

A Master degree here.. (like my daughter) is 6 years university full time.. + she had to go to Philippines 6 months (research) for her thesis..

Definitely not the same..
Wow. I did have to go to school for 4 1/2 years for my Bachelors degree, those programs are always longer then a Masters program.

But yeah, 6 years for a Masters degree is a long time!
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Old 14th December 2009, 2:38 PM   #36
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Let's be clear here: To say a Masters Degree in the US is "a two-year program" leaves unspoken the implicit assumption that you have already earned a Bachelor's degree. So the most common sequence in the US is:

Bachelors degree = 4 years at university (sometimes more, seldom less)

Masters degree = Bachelors plus approx 2 years MORE (for a total "at university" of approx. 6 years)

So that sounds very close to what Lizzie is saying, if when she says "A Master degree here... is 6 years university full time", she is including the entire time spent at university...
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Old 14th December 2009, 2:42 PM   #37
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Thats what I was going to say Trimmer.

In my field, the Bachelors degree is 5 years, and the Masters is an additional 3 years, so 8 years in total. (I didn't do a Masters).
I think most countries universities follow roughly similar formats.
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Thats what I was going to say Trimmer.

In my field, the Bachelors degree is 5 years, and the Masters is an additional 3 years, so 8 years in total. (I didn't do a Masters).
I think most countries universities follow roughly similar formats.
Yeah, true.

Anyway, putting thread back on topic. I like the suggestion that Carrie had, I'm just a little worried that it may sound unbelievable. This is just so hard because I feel that nobody is going to give me a chance and I will never get back in the field. I'm so frustrated.

I'm just going to take the chance of interviewing without xxxxx on my resume. Like I said I don't really have much credit, as I don't have a credit card or any kind of loans. I just feel like I will have a better chance at a job. I wish this hadn't been my first job...

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Old 14th December 2009, 5:52 PM   #39
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hi LB! i'm sorry to hear you are still having difficulties finding a job to your liking. perhaps it doesn't offer much comfort, but understand that, economically-speaking, times are difficult at present. people, in general, without a job are finding it very hard to find a new one (that is not retail, and even those can be hard right now), so please have patience.

in direct response to your question: yes, of course people who get fired are hired somewhere else. how soon after they have been terminated most likely depends on their attitude and willingness to learn from past mistakes, so as to not repeat them. just imagine, if everyone who got fired never got hired again somewhere else...well...come on. it might make is a little more difficult, yes, but not necessarily if your attitude and willingness (aside from academic/professional references) are in the right place.

that said, please re-read the subsequent post, as it is the best advice i have read here in a long time:

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LB, I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

But you know what? It's not so bad! You didn't lose the job because you were a bad counselor or couldn't learn. You likely lost it because you made a dumb error (while doing something most of us on LS are or have been guilty of).

If you're ever really pressed for a reason why you were fired from that job the truth isn't all that bad! You can tell an interviewer "Honestly, I made an error in surfing the internet on my downtime, which caused my computer to get a virus. I lost my boss's trust, and no matter how hard I worked to regain it and to show him I was a dedicated employee I couldn't fix the work relationship. It's definitely something I will never do again."

I would never pass a great candidate up over something like this and I'm sure most others wouldn't either.

And if it makes you feel better, one day at work I was googling hair styles because I was going to get a hair cut that evening. I was hopping around to random sites and suddenly a huge porn ad popped up on my screen. My entire screen was covered by butt sex and I couldn't close the thing!
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BIG NO-NO!!!! Never, never, never say personality conflict. Because, as far as the hiring person is concerned, YOU were the one fired so you were the one causing the problems.
This is what I have heard also. Never tell the prospective employer that you had a personality conflict with your boss.....
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This is what I have heard also. Never tell the prospective employer that you had a personality conflict with your boss.....
Yeah, I learned my lesson on that one. I tend to try to avoid saying anything about relationships with supervisors/bosses. That just looks like I start fights or something. Granted they didn't like me there, but really I never started anything with any of the management, they did that all on their own.

I could try the uniform suggestion, this is just really hard because I don't know the in detailed reason for being fired so I am having trouble explaining it to employers.
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"Honestly, I made an error in surfing the internet on my downtime, which caused my computer to get a virus. I lost my boss's trust, and no matter how hard I worked..."

Wow, what a brilliant idea.
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"Honestly, I made an error in surfing the internet on my downtime, which caused my computer to get a virus. I lost my boss's trust, and no matter how hard I worked..."

Wow, what a brilliant idea.
I'm just concerned that employers will see that as a liability. I have however noticed that a lot of social service agencies do not even give their employees computer access...

I suppose I could try it, nothing else has worked!
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I'm just concerned that employers will see that as a liability. I have however noticed that a lot of social service agencies do not even give their employees computer access...

I suppose I could try it, nothing else has worked!
LB, to me you sound like you've been born yesterday.

Just say that you quit your job to finish your research in brain waves or something.
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Old 14th December 2009, 7:00 PM   #45
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LB, to me you sound like you've been born yesterday.

Just say that you quit your job to finish your research in brain waves or something.
Ah come on, was that really neccessary? Sheesh.

I'm just worried with good reason. Nobody has hired me and I am getting paranoid honestly. Making fun of me doesn't help me at all.
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