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Old 10th September 2009, 11:34 AM   #31
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this is a very pertinent point which hasn't been addressed. did you? amend means to change and involves action - words are meaningless without action.

this holds true especially in the world of recovery and even more so if it's your job. if you aren't living what you're teaching and expecting of others - there's no point in having that position/job.

also what reason did you give to the guy interviewing as to why you left the last job?
Let's just say I tried to take care of the issue and it didn't help.

As for the interview, he didn't ask.
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Old 10th September 2009, 11:37 AM   #32
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As for the interview, he didn't ask.
That's weird. Does your resume make it look like you're still employed? If it does, that will hurt your chances.
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Old 10th September 2009, 11:51 AM   #33
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That's weird. Does your resume make it look like you're still employed? If it does, that will hurt your chances.
Well, I was trying to find a new job before I lost it, which is when I mailed the resume. So the one HE got said that I was still employed because I was at the time. I did tell him that I had left my job so I didn't work there currently and that's when he said "oh okay." And that was it.
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Old 10th September 2009, 1:49 PM   #34
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Laurie what did you do so bad? I am asking to see if this will affect futire employment as I am sure that a counsellor needs excellent references
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Old 10th September 2009, 1:52 PM   #35
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Laurie what did you do so bad? I am asking to see if this will affect futire employment as I am sure that a counsellor needs excellent references
It's a really long personal story, the only person I have told is my best friend and fiance.

I am wondering about the future employment myself. Let's just say i did not do anything unethical or against company policy. I think if my employer actually told an interviewer what happened they would laugh their butts off!
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Old 10th September 2009, 1:55 PM   #36
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It's a really long personal story, the only person I have told is my best friend and fiance.
Well then, that sounds like it was pretty serious and warranted their reaction. I find it interesting that you're so dismissive of it and act like it was so trivial, and call them "A-HOLES" for being upset about something that you now call "personal" and won't even post about anonymously.

*shrug*

You can't learn from your mistakes if you're not willing to truly evaluate them. But whatevs.
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Old 10th September 2009, 2:09 PM   #37
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While we all have our curiosity regarding the past problem, I can see why you would not want it out here. My guess is that anyone who knows you from work could put two and two together and figure out who you were. Of course, you have your picture in your profile. On the other hand, while this is anonymous, we all have personalities and reputations. Relating an embarrassing situation does affect who you are here on LS.

The question really is...how will this affect your future jobs and the one you are interviewing for? Will your ex-bosses give you a good or at least decent reference? Do you feel comfortable asking them for one?
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Old 10th September 2009, 2:09 PM   #38
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Lb, you should read this inspirational thread from quankanne.
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Old 10th September 2009, 2:09 PM   #39
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Well then, that sounds like it was pretty serious and warranted their reaction. I find it interesting that you're so dismissive of it and act like it was so trivial, and call them "A-HOLES" for being upset about something that you now call "personal" and won't even post about anonymously.

*shrug*

You can't learn from your mistakes if you're not willing to truly evaluate them. But whatevs.
Like I said, I don't wish to discuss it. Case closed.
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Old 10th September 2009, 2:14 PM   #40
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While we all have our curiosity regarding the past problem, I can see why you would not want it out here. My guess is that anyone who knows you from work could put two and two together and figure out who you were. Of course, you have your picture in your profile. On the other hand, while this is anonymous, we all have personalities and reputations. Relating an embarrassing situation does affect who you are here on LS.
Like I said, drop it please.

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The question really is...how will this affect your future jobs and the one you are interviewing for? Will your ex-bosses give you a good or at least decent reference? Do you feel comfortable asking them for one?
I don't know, like I said before, he didn't ask me about it. If he wants to call my ex-boss fine, however he didn't ask me if he could (although I know he doesn't have to) or why I left my job, ect. So I'm just guessing he doesn't care.
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I know some are going to come after me for stating this but i dont care and thats why I have made good use of the ignore button (best thing in the world) :

I think we shoulds all respect lb not wanting to share that aspect of her personal life on this forum. I can very well see why she would decide not to discuss it here. Someone might google and see this thread and put two and two together..and she may just not want to rehash and learn from her "mistakes" on a public forum.
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Old 10th September 2009, 2:55 PM   #42
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I know some are going to come after me for stating this but i dont care and thats why I have made good use of the ignore button (best thing in the world) :
Then why are you reading my posts?

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I think we shoulds all respect lb not wanting to share that aspect of her personal life on this forum.
No one is asking her to disclose the details. LB dishes specific details here about all sorts of things. So if it's that personal, such that she only told her BFF and fiance, it's a pretty big deal... i.e., not something to trivialize and mock her bosses for being upset about. Are they really "A-HOLES" for getting upset about something that is that "personal"? Me thinks not. That's all.

LB, I still strongly encourage you to come up with a persuasive response for when you're asked why you left, because you WILL be asked by future prospective employers who are truly interested in you.

As for this interview, I don't want to be negative here, but I wouldn't hold out too much hope. The fact that the interviewer didn't ask why you left when told you him that had left is very telling. They ALWAYS ask. The fact that he didn't indicates to me that he wasn't interested in knowing why for a reason: he'd already crossed you off his mental list of viable candidates.
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Old 10th September 2009, 3:12 PM   #43
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In academia, we always need a lot of professional references, be it to apply for jobs or funding. (Most applications require 3 references).

I've been attending career counselling seminars and they suggest discussing the quality of references with referees so that we can be prepared to address any question potential employers might ask. The difference between academia and your field, as I understand it, is that because of the high amount of referees and references we have to provide, we can get references from co-workers and supervisors without involving the whole organization. We are also encouraged to ask if referees can give us a favorable reference so that, in the case they are ambivalent, we can find somebody else who may evaluate us in a better light.

The point is, we are encouraged to know what kind of references our referees will give us, so that if anything negative comes up, we can "make amends" for it, as SG says.

I wonder if there is a way for you to get in touch with whoever would be providing you with a reference at your former office. We've been told to ask: "do you think you would be able to provide future employers with a favorable reference?" and if not, ask them what they feel we need to improve on. I know it takes a healthy dose of humility to do this, but it is a winning scenario for the long run.
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Old 10th September 2009, 3:15 PM   #44
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lb if you dont want to share you dont have to and dont let anyone make you feel as though you should.
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The point is, we are encouraged to know what kind of references our referees will give us, so that if anything negative comes up, we can "make amends" for it, as SG says.

I wonder if there is a way for you to get in touch with whoever would be providing you with a reference at your former office. We've been told to ask: "do you think you would be able to provide future employers with a favorable reference?" and if not, ask them what they feel we need to improve on. I know it takes a healthy dose of humility to do this, but it is a winning scenario for the long run.
That's a great idea, K.
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