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Old 28th October 2017, 3:08 PM   #16
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Lift weights.....and when you get tired....lift more....Look great and not have to worry so much about what you eat....


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Download the Lose It app. Enter your goals. I usually get "allowed" 1,100 calories a day, and may add 500 with exercise (if I get out twice in one day) - but for me to lose weight, I can't eat my "exercise calories" I usually shoot for half of them (so I will eat 1,350 on an exercise day)
Is this the same as myfitnesspal? I have used that app and did good on it. Anything I try I do it successfully for about 1 month, then I get disorganized for some reasos and I drop off of it.
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Do you ever eat snacks? Yes, I must
Do you eat meals at regular times of the day. Yes always
Do you eat anything which is labelled 'diet', 'fat free' or 'light'? No
By saying 'the holidays' do you mean Christmas or something sooner? Xmas
What time frame are you looking at and how much are you looking to lose?I was aiming at 15-lbs I know it's a lot considering xmas is in 2 months. I'd be happy between 10 and 15.
Having seen this and also that you get a bit disorganised after a month my method could work for you. Plus, from your other thread you may have a bit of a change of lifestyle coming up working from home possibly for a while, it's not easy to plan a diet when part of your life is up in the air.

Before I started this I weighed myself, I wanted to lose about 3.5 stone and keep it off.
I lost 3.5 stone and over the last er..counting 14 years I have only put on a maximum of 7lbs, Kinda 'reset myself and lost it again. Over the first 6 months though I only lost weight.

The first thing is to start slowly shrinking your stomach and I thought this was going to be really difficult but within just a week it was kicking in for me.
Before I started I could eat a meal until I was stuffed full and then I'd go pick up an extra potato or four whilst clearing up the serving dishes!

The principle behind what I do is only eating when I am hungry and then stopping when I am full - bear with me and I'll explain it further in a bit.

The stomach shrinking part first:
Start out with your meals and snacks as normal but only eat them if you really are hungry.
When you are hungry, eat but every single time you lay out something to eat leave a tiny bit even if you still feel a little hungry.
The amount you leave at first can be a lettuce leaf, a bean, one quarter of a new potato - absolutely anything you want. But leave one little bit of something. Same for a snack, leave the last bit of that snack.
Don't start out putting less on your plate, serve up just what you always do.
The principle is the same if you have a 3 course meal too. Leav one little bit of each course.

During around the first couple of weeks you will feel a little bit hungry but it goes away quickly - literally it was 2 weeks for me. All it is that your stomach is getting used to eating just a little bit less so that you aren't full to capacity after a meal.

As you do this start to recognise the feeling you have right at the front right under your ribs where your stomach is.
Initially you won't know what it is you're trying to notice but I found putting my hand there, feeling, concentrating on that area helped me get it and again I got it in a couple of weeks pretty much. I learned when I felt comfortably full and it was a different feeling to feeling I had over eaten.

After a while (about a month from memory) , with snacks I would consider how close it was until lunchtime and whether I could last until then. The fact that you eat at regular times makes this easier actually.
If I am getting tummy rumbles at 11am and know I will be eating a meal at say 12.30pm then I can either eat that snack, leave a little but then know I wouldn't be able to eat all of my lunch or I could skip the snack.

I found that leaving a little bit each time led me to leave a little bit more (on the whole) and it wasn't through choice in my mind it was through listening to my body - one more bite and I would feel like I was going to be sick.

I started this at the end of October 2003. Afetr 2 weeks I weighed myself and had lost 8lbs.
I then decided not to weigh myself again until around my birthday in late March.

I just carried on in this way, if I would choose to eat a snack at 11am then I would realise I wasn't really hungry enough for lunch so I would grab a snack again - but a snack can be half of my lunch.
Next time it was time for afternoon snack I could eat the rest of my lunch or have what I had in for a snack.

So it's turned out that snacking doesn't stop for me if I want that snack but it does affect how much I am bale to eat at the next meal.

Some days I fancy a snack and then just snack through the day and eat my meal at night.

If I do overeat the effect the next day is that I get hungrier sooner and need more to eat.

I eat pretty healthily but do eat what I want when I want (as long as I am hungry).

You should start to feel hungry 1-2 hours before food always but when eating and you can recognise the feeling of comfortably full - that is the biggie (at least it was for me) in learning to eat less volume.

I didn't do much in the way of exercise at all while I lost the weight but I did lose that 3.5 stone by late March and I was amazed it had been so easy.

Once I got to the weight I wanted I started walking for walking's sake 3-5 times per week for about 20 minutes (dog walking is too slow - my dog would never keep up) .
For walking I would use the back of my thigh to push off with rather than walking normally and picking up my leg using the muscles from the front of my thigh and hip.
Walking like this briskly using the back of my thing and bum to push me forward tones up my legs, hips, tummy,& waist.

I've never stopped eating this way and like I said if I do put on a little weight I address it and concentrate again on leaving a little bit each time I eat.

When I go out for 3 course meals now I will have a starter and a main as being a carbs fan those are the courses I enjoy most.
If I do have a starter though I can guarantee I won't be able to eat all of the main meal. I also never have the bread they give you before a starter as I just wouldn't have the space in my stomach to fit a meal in.

But yeah, October to March I lost 3.5 stone with no effort, no weighing, no counting calories. My body got to the point of a happy weight for itself and one I was happy with also.
The 20 years prior to that I had been fluctuating up and down, been with weight watchers and tried slimming world and tried fads too.

This worked for me and has worked for 14 years!

You would have no trouble losing I reckon 10-11lbs by Christmas (slow and healthy rate) and by Feb you'll have lost your 15lbs. I'm being very careful with estimates here but looking at what I lost and knowing weight loss slows down a lot I must have lost much more than 15lbs by Christmas when I started this time of the year those 14 years ago.
The great thing too - I didn't worry about Christmas weight for the first time in years! I didn't sneak any extra potatoes nor did I stuff myself that Christmas but I certainly had a great time and loved my food - still do!

If you want to give it a try and have any questions then I'm happy to answer anything.

It's worth a go while things are a bit up in the air for you as no planning is required and you only have to think about food before and whilst you are eating it so it doesn't take up headspace whilst other things are going on in your life.
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If I don't eat enough carbs I never stop feeling hungry
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Old 29th October 2017, 6:28 AM   #21
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If I don't eat enough carbs I never stop feeling hungry
Something I have learned over the years I have been eating the way I do is that carbs will fill me up for a while but protein is the thing that fills me up for a longer amount of time.
If I have say half a chicken salad that will keep me fuller longer than a carb based snack will ever do.
Protein is more complex and takes longer to digest.

Eg: I had pizza the other weekend, not a lot of protein in that so I knew I would get hungrier sooner - and I did.
Yesterday I had a man sized chicken salad with no carbs and it took a lot longer to feel hungry again.

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If I don't eat enough carbs I never stop feeling hungry
You need carbs.. I don't get it why people think to take out the crabs..

If you feel hungry eat oatmeal (1 cup nuked or cook it on the stove in pot)
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I made a seaweed wrap filled it up with mix greens, Chickpea /garbanzo beans, white mushroom, Brussels sprouts, spinach and light ranch dressing.
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Old 30th October 2017, 12:32 AM   #24
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Yes, I have tried this diet. I'm one of the few who develops the keto rash on this diet (experts disagree over what causes this but I have a feeling it's a detox reaction), which is unfortunate because it did help me with my neurological issues. I had to discontinue it because it started on my face this last time, so I'm going to try the AIP and then go back on keto if that doesn't help me. My friend's child is also on the keto diet and he has now been seizure-free for 6 months after numerous drugs did nothing for him (he had been having 50+ monoclonic seizures a day previously).

My boyfriend does the keto diet and he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. I joke that his 6 pack is a 20 pack. It works well for him and seems to boost his testosterone. I lose weight on this diet easily, as well, and my body is very stubborn to weight loss in general (endocrine issues). I basically have to starve myself otherwise, but not with keto. So if weight loss is your goal, I think you will be pleasantly surprised with keto.

However, make sure that you drink lots of lemon water to mitigate the risk of kidney stones and do a lot of lettuce and other types of greens that don't have a net carb in order to offset all the fat and meat you will be consuming. You will have to be vigilant about your electrolytes, particularly your potassium sources.

One of my favorite resources on how to do the keto diet properly is Eric Berg. If you haven't already, I strongly suggest that you look up some of his videos on YouTube. He's great.
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Thank you for sharing! it's a great advice. It's quite an accomplishment what you did. When as a child you've been forced to finish your plate it's very difficult to reprogram ourselves! Remember being made to finish your plate so you could get dessert? No wonder so many people struggle with identifying when they're full. Leaving a bit of food in my plate would defenitely help me break from that habit and help me identify when I am full. I am gonna start doing that tomorrow!


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Having seen this and also that you get a bit disorganised after a month my method could work for you. Plus, from your other thread you may have a bit of a change of lifestyle coming up working from home possibly for a while, it's not easy to plan a diet when part of your life is up in the air.

Before I started this I weighed myself, I wanted to lose about 3.5 stone and keep it off.
I lost 3.5 stone and over the last er..counting 14 years I have only put on a maximum of 7lbs, Kinda 'reset myself and lost it again. Over the first 6 months though I only lost weight.

The first thing is to start slowly shrinking your stomach and I thought this was going to be really difficult but within just a week it was kicking in for me.
Before I started I could eat a meal until I was stuffed full and then I'd go pick up an extra potato or four whilst clearing up the serving dishes!

The principle behind what I do is only eating when I am hungry and then stopping when I am full - bear with me and I'll explain it further in a bit.

The stomach shrinking part first:
Start out with your meals and snacks as normal but only eat them if you really are hungry.
When you are hungry, eat but every single time you lay out something to eat leave a tiny bit even if you still feel a little hungry.
The amount you leave at first can be a lettuce leaf, a bean, one quarter of a new potato - absolutely anything you want. But leave one little bit of something. Same for a snack, leave the last bit of that snack.
Don't start out putting less on your plate, serve up just what you always do.
The principle is the same if you have a 3 course meal too. Leav one little bit of each course.

During around the first couple of weeks you will feel a little bit hungry but it goes away quickly - literally it was 2 weeks for me. All it is that your stomach is getting used to eating just a little bit less so that you aren't full to capacity after a meal.

As you do this start to recognise the feeling you have right at the front right under your ribs where your stomach is.
Initially you won't know what it is you're trying to notice but I found putting my hand there, feeling, concentrating on that area helped me get it and again I got it in a couple of weeks pretty much. I learned when I felt comfortably full and it was a different feeling to feeling I had over eaten.

After a while (about a month from memory) , with snacks I would consider how close it was until lunchtime and whether I could last until then. The fact that you eat at regular times makes this easier actually.
If I am getting tummy rumbles at 11am and know I will be eating a meal at say 12.30pm then I can either eat that snack, leave a little but then know I wouldn't be able to eat all of my lunch or I could skip the snack.

I found that leaving a little bit each time led me to leave a little bit more (on the whole) and it wasn't through choice in my mind it was through listening to my body - one more bite and I would feel like I was going to be sick.

I started this at the end of October 2003. Afetr 2 weeks I weighed myself and had lost 8lbs.
I then decided not to weigh myself again until around my birthday in late March.

I just carried on in this way, if I would choose to eat a snack at 11am then I would realise I wasn't really hungry enough for lunch so I would grab a snack again - but a snack can be half of my lunch.
Next time it was time for afternoon snack I could eat the rest of my lunch or have what I had in for a snack.

So it's turned out that snacking doesn't stop for me if I want that snack but it does affect how much I am bale to eat at the next meal.

Some days I fancy a snack and then just snack through the day and eat my meal at night.

If I do overeat the effect the next day is that I get hungrier sooner and need more to eat.

I eat pretty healthily but do eat what I want when I want (as long as I am hungry).

You should start to feel hungry 1-2 hours before food always but when eating and you can recognise the feeling of comfortably full - that is the biggie (at least it was for me) in learning to eat less volume.

I didn't do much in the way of exercise at all while I lost the weight but I did lose that 3.5 stone by late March and I was amazed it had been so easy.

Once I got to the weight I wanted I started walking for walking's sake 3-5 times per week for about 20 minutes (dog walking is too slow - my dog would never keep up) .
For walking I would use the back of my thigh to push off with rather than walking normally and picking up my leg using the muscles from the front of my thigh and hip.
Walking like this briskly using the back of my thing and bum to push me forward tones up my legs, hips, tummy,& waist.

I've never stopped eating this way and like I said if I do put on a little weight I address it and concentrate again on leaving a little bit each time I eat.

When I go out for 3 course meals now I will have a starter and a main as being a carbs fan those are the courses I enjoy most.
If I do have a starter though I can guarantee I won't be able to eat all of the main meal. I also never have the bread they give you before a starter as I just wouldn't have the space in my stomach to fit a meal in.

But yeah, October to March I lost 3.5 stone with no effort, no weighing, no counting calories. My body got to the point of a happy weight for itself and one I was happy with also.
The 20 years prior to that I had been fluctuating up and down, been with weight watchers and tried slimming world and tried fads too.

This worked for me and has worked for 14 years!

You would have no trouble losing I reckon 10-11lbs by Christmas (slow and healthy rate) and by Feb you'll have lost your 15lbs. I'm being very careful with estimates here but looking at what I lost and knowing weight loss slows down a lot I must have lost much more than 15lbs by Christmas when I started this time of the year those 14 years ago.
The great thing too - I didn't worry about Christmas weight for the first time in years! I didn't sneak any extra potatoes nor did I stuff myself that Christmas but I certainly had a great time and loved my food - still do!

If you want to give it a try and have any questions then I'm happy to answer anything.

It's worth a go while things are a bit up in the air for you as no planning is required and you only have to think about food before and whilst you are eating it so it doesn't take up headspace whilst other things are going on in your life.
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You need carbs.. I don't get it why people think to take out the crabs..

If you feel hungry eat oatmeal (1 cup nuked or cook it on the stove in pot)
People are different. If I have a cup of oatmeal I am STARVING, just famished an hour later. More hungry than if I hadn’t eaten anything at all.

If I have a vegi dog (soy protein), for 100 calories I get 14 grams of protein, 4 grams carbs, pair that with half an apple – a 150 calorie “meal” that satisfies me for hours (so much I often forget about lunch, its 4 pm and I just ate mine – I wasn’t hungry till now).

A cup of oatmeal (plain) would have set me back 160 calories – but provide little in the way of protein. Works for some people, but I have learned I have to have a significant amount of protein (eggs, canned fish, soy products) with my first meal of the day.

As for taking out the carbs - I have never tried to do Keto or carb free (just doesn't sound healthy for my body) - BUT when you are limiting yourself to 1,100 calories a day, you need to cut carbs in order to still reach decent levels of proteins and healthy fats (both of which are filling).

I try to eat nutrient rich foods - while on calorie restriction, and that doesn't leave much room for things like oatmeal or bread.
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I have breakfast at 6 a.m. I love oatmeal but a bowl of oatmeal will carry me to 9:30 am, no further.

This morning I had 2 hard boiled eggs and I started thinking of food around 11:30 so it carried almost to my lunch, that's great.
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I have breakfast at 6 a.m. I love oatmeal but a bowl of oatmeal will carry me to 9:30 am, no further.

This morning I had 2 hard boiled eggs and I started thinking of food around 11:30 so it carried almost to my lunch, that's great.
The protein thing definitely makes a difference to how soo n after you get hungry but recognising when you are full is what I found to be the key thing.
Yes, I do remember having to eat very bit on my plate!

I generally don't eat breakfast anymore (always used to) as I'm not hungry when I wake up, I will have food in at work though if I need it later.
If you have a microwave at work and a toaster scrambled eggs or poached eggs (made in a mug) are good options too.

Good luck with it Gaeta, any questions give me a shout.


ETA and a kind of disclaimer: Don't cut carbs though - still eat them, my suggestion here is a lifestyle change, not a 'diet'.
If you cut things out of your diet you won't be eating a balanced diet and if you feel deprived/missing carbs then there will come a point when you crave them and put lbs back on.

Protein is good for filing up if you want to quit having/needing snacks but no one should be cutting out carbs long term.
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I've done and am currently doing Keto. In regards to the keto flu, this is a result of an electrolyte deficiency. When you start keto and are restricting carbs, your body is going to lose water due to being unable to retain it as much (water retention results from carbs in your body, more carbs, more water retained). Thus, when starting the diet, you lose water along with electrolyte, thus the "flu" or rather headaches and feeling like crap. If you replenish this and also drink plenty of water, you avoid most of the affects of the "flu".

Now as far as the actual diet itself, one of the key benefits is hunger control. When you eat fats and protein, you stay full longer in comparison to eating carbs. In the end though, the key is watching your total calories. It isn't magical in where you can eat whatever you want. You can gain weight in any "diet" if you eat too much.

So really, the key is tracking how much you eat. It just depends what works best for you.
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Is there really a difference between the Keto diet and Atkins diet? Both are based on depriving your body of carbs (fuel) so it feeds itself on your reserve of fat.
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