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I'm pretty new to weight training. I have only been doing it about a month. Here is my main question. I have heard that I should do chest/shoulders/tri's in one day. But when I get done doing chest I am so tired that shoulders are hard to do, let alone tri's. It seems like a waste of and exercise to try tri's after chest and shoulders.

Is it still best to do all these in one day, or split them up?

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There can be some merit to having a "push" day. The importance of a split is not to do MORE work, but to do HARDER work.

 

It seems you are encountering one of the common problems (based on one of the common misconceptions): chest training generally requires the use of your shoulders and triceps (plus other pushing/gripping musculature of the upper body). This is exactly why I steer people away from thinking of their body in discrete parts - the human body ISN'T arranged as such.

 

 

I would ask as to how many movements and sets per movement you are doing for "chest." A "push" day could truly be done in about 20 minutes with a handful of movements and not very many sets.

 

I would also ask why you are not asking questions about leg and back training, both of which are far more important than chest in terms of fitness.

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Originally posted by Ryan

I would ask as to how many movements and sets per movement you are doing for "chest."

 

I would also ask why you are not asking questions about leg and back training,

 

For chest I'm doing bench/fly's/incline dumbless. All for 4 sets, and up to 8 reps/set.

 

I don't have the same problem with legs/bi's/back. The chest workout is the only thing that tires me out that much.

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For chest I'm doing bench/fly's/incline dumbless. All for 4 sets, and up to 8 reps/set.

 

That makes me tired just thinking about it.

 

Here's something for you to think about....then come back with some questions: you do about as many sets for a single "chest" session as I do in 2 weeks of training my entire body.

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My thought about a "push" day would be this:

 

If I do 1 HARD set of bench press (bar, dumbbell or machine chest press), 1 HARD set of dips (weighted if necessary) and 1 HARD set of overhead presses (bar, dumbbell, or machine).............what's left?

 

How are my chest, shoulders, and triceps/pushing arm musculature not fully involved in those 3 simple movements?

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