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I know this is not going to make me Mr. Popular with the moralists, but I really don't care, because its oh so true.

 

There are, at least everywhere I have been, both north and south U.S., and im sure other countries as well, wayyyy to many fat or just medium-level obese females. I mean the ratio of visibly overweight females in Texas alone has got to be something like 6 out of 10 or something, I mean it's that bad, and generally not much better elsewhere as far as I have seen.

 

I really do think I know what is the root cause that enables these, lets call it what it is, fat women, to stay fat. It's their parents/family and or friends telling them their whole life that they are "fine" and that they "don't need to change a thing.." when in reality they need to be told something along the lines of "your fat, go workout and wake the F up about your body"

 

Yes there are fat men, oh lord no doubt, but I would say after 21 years of living that the ratio of fat men is only like 4/10, maybe worse elsewhere, not as bad as with women from what I have witnessed.

 

Like I really see how this messes up society almost, because like me and 6 other guys will be sitting, and there will be like 8 or so girls standing over yonder, yet only 2-3 if that are in what would be considered "good" shape, and the others go from bad to worse. I have actually known good looking guys, guys who workout and all that, that have had to have sex with direly out of shape women or just be single all because there just aren't enough in shape women to go around for the amount of in shape men, I find that disturbing.

 

And no im not "jealous" or w/e is gonna be the most popular attack line, I am luckily above the fray in terms of looks when it comes to guys and have no prob getting the in shape girls which are a rarity, yet it irks me that this seems to be the case.

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I really do think I know what is the root cause that enables these, lets call it what it is, fat women, to stay fat. It's their parents/family and or friends telling them their whole life that they are "fine" and that they "don't need to change a thing.." when in reality they need to be told something along the lines of "your fat, go workout and wake the F up about your body"

 

FYI, it's not our families that encourage us to remain at unhealthy weights, but society itself.

 

what do you do if you need to grab a meal in a pinch, along the way from point A to point B, etc, that you're not able to prepare yourself? Stop at a fast-food place, even knowing that the crap they serve there is bad for you because there are few healthy food selections. So that's one, eating burgers on the run when the options are limited.

 

there's also the whole lack of structured time for exercise – it's easy to get caught up in what needs to be done that you put off what needs to be done for you ... and those are the habits that stick.

 

and then, you as a heavy person are confronted by unrealistic images offered up by advertisers, by hollywood, by magazines that convince everyone that if you're not skeletal with blonde hair and implants and collagen injections (ripped with muscle and no body hair if you're male), then something is so horribly wrong with you that you need to crawl back into the cave you just exited ... how do you reconcile a body that's not perfect in the eyes of society? Turn to your friend, food? Most of us do, knowing it's not a healthy thing to do, but at least food doesn't judge us.

 

bless your heart ... you just don't get it ...

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I see it as harming our society, because it means good people that deserve and should be getting in to relationships, both the in shape and the over-weight, are not because one group is not taking care of themselves.

 

Take my younger brother for instance. He started to get fat, visibly fat, he had stomach flab and all, and me and his other two brothers are in shape and or skinny. Instead of me and my brothers and our family telling him "hey it's all good you're fine" and all that crap, we subliminally or in some teasing cases, that might have been tough, but necessary, got him to the point where he lost the weight by working out and getting active again.

 

He was able to do it because he had people and family around him that wouldn't allow him to succumb to that fate of obesity, wouldn't let him be lazy and drag down himself and society by adding another fat person to it. He looks great now and has a six pack, and works out every day almost, and is proud.

 

That's what needs to happen, these women need to be given the truth, so they can get out of their current state of obesity, its not "cruel" or "mean", its the way you get healthy, by having others around you not let you fall, even if it means giving you flack in the process.

 

 

 

Also that premise that there isn't enough time or that there are to many distractions food wise, that's just bogus excuses man. Surely all the skinny/in shape people, who constitute the majority of people on this planet in number, don't all have mass amounts of free time or only eat salads. They make time, they eat crap food just like fat people, except they BURN the fat off, not blame it on the food and or their busy lifestyle.

 

The argument that there isnt enough time or that it's the food being avaliable to much is crazy, in-shape/skinny people eat junk food and have busy lives too, but they are able to manage.

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I used to be fat and my mom was brutally honest with me and would tell me so everyday to the point where I got sick of it, I lost the weight to shut her up. I was pretty content with my body then, I didn't love it, but I didn't want to work at it. 6 months later I was 40lbs thinner, much happier, mom was off my back and the male attention was coming in like you would not believe.

 

The point is, the truth may hurt, but someone's family really needs to be honest with them. I am happy my mom didn't let me go through life being fat. She was honest with me and I know she loves me and my life has improved for the better.

 

And yes, there are way too many fat people in this country.

 

Quankanne, turning to food is not the answer. Yeah it doesn't judge, but ya know what, judging is good b/c it forces people to do something about the situation. I was judge by my parents and friends and everyone I associated with b/c i was the "fat girl" and that judging was what motivated me. Food is never the answer.

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Society in general is too fat.

 

Look at the men around you. Tell me that they are all slim and muscular.

 

When I look around, I see just as many men who are fat (and I mean obese) as I do women.

 

The funny thing is in our society we value women more for their looks and men more for what they accomplish and do. This is sad. Even the so called women's magazines feed into this. My wife gets the People mag, and on the last cover ( a special style magazine), it highlighted three articles....one had to do with flirty hair styles, another was about how to build great cleavage, and the other...I think had to do with makeup. This is how the magazine sells. It promotes outward beauty. If it were an unusual magazine, then it would be one thing, but it is not.

 

So, since women look at men deeper than just the outer beauty, they tend to look past the physical flaws. Yet us men sit there and look at "fat" women critically as if somehow it is their responsibility to look perfect for us men.

 

Sorry...I think your premise is true yet false. It is not just the women but also the men.

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Hmm....

 

First, this:

 

I am luckily above the fray in terms of looks when it comes to guys and have no prob getting the in shape girls which are a rarity, yet it irks me that this seems to be the case.

 

Then, some perspective from the past....

 

Does anyone who can easily go up to girls have any advice that may help me? I know its not that hard to do because I have no prob talking to girls and it always makes me mad when I think about how I can talk to them with such ease yet cannot go up to them If I don't know them.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1874365&postcount=1

 

This is the purpose of maturing; it's the process of deciding what is of value to you and how to best fit your uniqueness into that chaotic and often nonsensical place that is our existence. Welcome :)

 

I agree with James. In general, we are a bit too full of it. I am reminded of the Roman senators reclining upon their couches being fed by their concubines :)

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when confronted with impressions, go get the facts. According to obesityamerica.org, the percentage of overweight men make up for the percentage of obese women.

 

http://www.obesityinamerica.org/trends.html

 

The numbers are scary - but they are scary, and pretty much equivalent for both genders. So clearly the problem isn't gendered but societal. This Canadian health report suggests there are a number of factors, from urban planning (which can encourage/discourage walking versus driving everywhere) to personal factors (such as employment and activity levels).

 

Now, perhaps some women feel entitled, but again, entitlement seems to cross gender borders.

 

Another thing, since the numbers are pretty much equal in regards to obesity in the USA, perhaps your perception that there are way more fat women is based on your own tolerance of fatness amongst men, and your intolerance of it in women.

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So your issue is that there are too many fat women so there are not enough thin women for thin men to hit on and date?

 

Perhaps this thread should be posted in the Rants section.

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Society in general eats poorly and exercise is non existent. But don't blame society just get off your butt and start doing something about it. You can eat well and find enough time to exercise no matter what your personal situation is. It is just easier to sit on the couch watch TV and eat snacks and candy bars.

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OP, your premise is disturbing. It's one thing to want people to lose weight due to health concerns and entirely something else to get uptight about what you perceive are heavy individuals, creating a smaller dating pool for you. That's a megalomaniac approach to life.

 

"I wish every single man I met was single, drop-dead gorgeous, with an IQ of Einstein and the sense of humor of a stand-up comedian. This would increase the size of my dating pool. You all need to hear the truth, that you don't meet up to my standards!".

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Hey, TBF, I thought those were your standards ;):D

 

Seriously, the OP's "above the fray" comment was the singular most telling. OP, we are happy to have you down here in the fray if you so desire :)

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Whether they are or aren't, I don't expect the world to change to increase my personal dating pool! :laugh:

 

Okay guys, go study up on global politics, current scientific theory and the global financial situation. Oh, and don't forget to not only get cut but make sure your muscles aren't the bulky kind. If you're short, start growing...NOW!

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A large part of the problem is a diet chock filled with additives, preservatives, and artificial ingredients paired with way too much sodium and fat.

 

If people dropped all of that stuff, and ate only fresh fruits, vegetables, meats, grains, drank only fresh brewed tea or water, and minimized animal fats there wouldn't really be a weight problem even for sedentary people.

 

The further our food is from its origins, the worse it is for us and our bodies simply aren't designed to handle the 'enhancements' or food substitutes. We get fatter, sicker, and weaker and the only "solution" seems to be to create new drugs and excuses, or to come up with some new 'diet' or 'detox' that combines, mixes or omits addled foods in such a way as to trick you into thinking it is working, when really all you are doing is restricting calories and starving your body of what it really needs. As soon as you start eating 'normally' your body slingshots and piles that weight back on, plus another ten to twenty pounds on top of that.

 

Its simple really. Eat things as close to their original form as possible, and drink water (and plenty of it) 99% of the time, and other beverages or treats 1% of the time. Exercise moderately.

 

That will never happen in this lifetime though. Most people have been conditioned to prefer tastes of things that are as far from their origins as you can get for the most part.

 

The thing I seem to see most is an attitude of "I would do anything to be skinny except: change what I eat, and exercise" and most people will do whatever is necessary to avoid sensible eating and exercise in lieu of the fad diets and 'special' foods.

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"I wish every single man I met was single, drop-dead gorgeous, with an IQ of Einstein and the sense of humor of a stand-up comedian. This would increase the size of my dating pool. You all need to hear the truth, that you don't meet up to my standards!".

 

Hello, TBF, my name is James. :love:

 

Oh wait, I fail on the "single" part of the description. :D

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Society (porn) has classified women as titties and a virgina. As long as you have the equipment there will be men who want you no matter how big the donor.

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Like I really see how this messes up society almost, because like me and 6 other guys will be sitting, and there will be like 8 or so girls standing over yonder....

 

Yonder? I suppose the fit guys you know could always just f*ck their sisters (assuming that fitness runs in the family).

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I personally don't have a problem with slightly to mildly overweight women. I don't think people who are as skinny as most of the stars people always look at as "sexy" or "gorgeous" are very attractive because all I can see is the word ANOREXIC stamped across their body every time I look at them. I am not saying I like obese women by any means because you should take care of yourself and there is no excuse for being a blimp however I prefer women who don't feel like they have to be toothpicks to be attractive.

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I read a lot of truths in y'alls writings, especially about living healthy (food, exercise), but still, it only takes one misguided jackass to bray about body concept to totally make me ignore whatever message he or she is trying to share behind the "motivational" talk about having a ripped, hard body. Not everyone is proportioned to look like a supermodel, nor is everyone meant to be.

 

I know what I need to do, and what I need to conquer, in order to be at my prime health; I don't need to be told that I'm not going to make the cut simply because I don't meet someone else's standards of "healthy beauty."

 

thank God my mother found more positive ways to encourage me to live healthy rather than telling me I looked like crap! :cool:

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My sister said at Disneyland they had had to take some of the water out of the Small World ride because Americans have gotten so fat that the water was going over the barrier when people were on the ride...

 

It's not really a "small" world anymore...haha!

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As for the food issue. My mom had a membership to 24 hour fitness, but she was upset about having to go exercise for like 1 hour to 1.5 hours, which is what I generally do. She now goes to Curves for 30 minutes, not everyday, and was comparing it to the same workout she got at 24 hour fitness.

 

This was all while she was eating a large bag of Lay's potato chips. So I told her, "Mom, you can't eat those chips, that just ruined all your hard work at Curves." And she said, "What chips?!" And stuffed the empty bag away.

 

I think she looked at it as an excuse to eat the chips. But my mom (I love her) is heavy, so are my sisters, and they don't really seem upset by it. Except my mom, who has been on many diets, weight watchers, jenny craigs, etc. She really just needs to change her general lifestyle and eat better, no gimick. She can't just exercise so she can eat what she wants, she needs to lose weight. She has aweful knee problems and uses a cane, which might be better if she lost like 50lbs.

 

I am not thin, I am a size 8 (29" waist)...and I want to be a size 4, but I want to acheive that goal over a year by making lifestyle changes, not by dieting and losing 2 pounds week...

 

My 10 year old nephew is overweight and boarderline diabetic, but my sister still lets him eat crap, all her kids and her have always eaten crap. He was telling me about it and actually upset. My neice who is not overweight (his sister) has type diabeties and it must scare him to see her go through all this at 15 years old. I wish my sister would take his health seriously.

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My sister said at Disneyland they had had to take some of the water out of the Small World ride because Americans have gotten so fat that the water was going over the barrier when people were on the ride...

 

It's not really a "small" world anymore...haha!

 

Look at the airline industry. Older planes are becoming outdated because they aren't designed for the modern fat person. One of the reasons airline costs are increasing (along with the price of fuel) is because jets are burning a lot more fuel because they are carrying more weight (i.e., fatter passengers). And there's been a lot of controversy about charging fatter people for two seats if they can't fit into one.

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Look at the airline industry. Older planes are becoming outdated because they aren't designed for the modern fat person. One of the reasons airline costs are increasing (along with the price of fuel) is because jets are burning a lot more fuel because they are carrying more weight (i.e., fatter passengers). And there's been a lot of controversy about charging fatter people for two seats if they can't fit into one.

 

Yeah the courts have found that it was a prejudice against a person to charge obese people for two seats. I tend to agree. I would really much prefer obese people be offered two seats on plane rather then me sitting squished next to someone who can only afford one seat.

 

That being said: I've been purchasing 2-3 international plane tickets and 3-4 national ones yearly for the last 6 years and I have yet to see the cost of plane tickets increase. If anything, they seem to have gone down lately, which I find mind-boggling considering the cost of fuel. Again, it would be nice if people actually checked facts before making allegations which could be seen as judgemental against obese people.

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There are just as many overweight men as women. It's just more socially acceptable to be a big dude than it is a thick woman.

 

This is a MYTH!!! Ever since I put on a few pounds I could barely get any play. Women don't like fat men. FAT WOMEN don't like fat men. They like their guys with a flat stomach. That's all there is to it. When it comes down to nuts and bolts that is a FACT.

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